Your best guess - how will the world end?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by wegs, Aug 19, 2016.

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How will the world end?

Poll closed Oct 3, 2016.
  1. Contagious fatal virus of which there is no cure

    3 vote(s)
    33.3%
  2. Nuclear war

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    0.0%
  3. Limited resources, and we simply run out

    1 vote(s)
    11.1%
  4. Natural disasters / climate change

    5 vote(s)
    55.6%
  5. Alien attack

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    An observation: As people get old, they tend to think the worst for the future of humanity. I finally realized that this is probably a coping mechanism. It is too painful to imagine the world going on without us.
     
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  3. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not old, though. lol I think that we receive a lot of data (some true, some based on paranoia) that suggests some of the things being mentioned here.
     
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  5. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Heat. The most obvious effect is drought, causing famine. Water is running out everywhere as the temperature is rising. The dryness also encourages wildfires in forest and grassland.
    Floods, tornadoes and snowstorms will continue to do some dramatic damage, but nothing compared to the scale of heat-killed crops. Of course, in rich countries, the relatively minor destruction of these local events, one after another, will exhaust their economies, because they're accustomed to lavish compensation and expensive rebuilding. They count the dead and injured, and the $ cost, but not the the long-term depletion of vegetation, wildlife, wetlands, etc., which all contribute the mass extinctions coming along behind.
    Certainly, if the drug cartels - er I mean Pharmaceutical corporations - keep their hold on profits. But it doesn't matter, because no epidemic wipes out entire populations. If we're allowed a cynical, realistic moment, we'll admit that a reduction of the overpopulation would be good for the species and the planet. Furthermore, if this reduction is done by a neutral outside agent, it would promote co-operation among nations which is currently lacking.
    The worst part is that countries with very large populations are most threatened by drought. This will cause mass migration on an unprecedented scale https://letterpile.com/books/Climate-Wars-A-Review
    and rancorous armed conflicts, and refugee camps and outbreaks of not one but many contagious diseases, in conditions where they are impossible to treat or contain. No natural disaster due to climate change will stay local very much longer.
     
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  7. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Good points.

    My reasoning behind the contagious deadly virus comes from my fascination with the series The Walking Dead. Obviously, the zombie effect is far fetched, but it just makes me wonder, could a deadly virus sweep across the globe and take out a substantial amount of people? And if that happened, everything else would be taken out, there'd be no people to control electricity, water, computers, police force, government, etc. Also, I think to the plagues of the past.

    Hadn't considered mass migration, that would be a scary thing!
     
  8. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    I know.

    I like the Grey Goo scenario. Self-replicating nanobots get out of control and convert the entire face of the plant to grey goo.
     
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  9. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    LOL

    I should've added that to my list of choices. Next time.

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  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    gee darn
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    Ain't evolution great? Everything keeps changing.
     
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  11. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Absolutely. A substantial die-off in any population not only strains their resources, it disrupts essential functions, curtails services and devastates the economy.
    Some other catastrophes can have the same or similar consequences. The way your mind works, you'd probably like this book
    http://www.viennareview.net/vienna-...iews/john-casti-an-optimist-of-the-apocalypse
    Big problem: too many people, interconnected, interdependent, on a fragile network of aging and contested infrastructures.

    You're seeing a preview - a trailer, as it were - with the troubles in the Middle East. The people in hot countries, like Brazil, have no southward destination to head for: they're all coming here, pushing the migrants from the deserts of Mexico, California, Texas, Oklahoma ahead of them. China and the ex-USSR republics have India in their lap; Europe has Africa. It's not going to be pretty!
     
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  12. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Natural.
     
  13. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Cold = drought=famine=disease due to weakened immune system.

    We are most likely still in an ice age. We don't know why it started nor why nor when it will end.
    Unless this holocene is a superinterglacial(see julie brigham grette), it should end within a few generations.
    The onset of the glaciers will be long and slow with sudden drops which will destroy crops and kill the weak.
    Then, about 90,000 years of poor productivity.....
    wild guess
    This will drop the human population by over 90%.
    The survivors will simply have to learn how to play well together.............or die.
    Assuming partial survival:
    This shrinking of the population will most likely lead to the next evolutionary step.
     
  14. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I think one of the plagues in London was credited with improving the economy.

    It funny that some are arguing that overpopulation might end the world and others are worried that thinning out the population would be a problem.

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  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    OK, number one.
    Reason? Just had a good friend leave hospital after radical prostate surgery, 4 days after the operation and as fit as one could hope for, only to be returned to hospital after 3 days with incredible pain all over his body: Diagnosis? He had caught "a form of Staph bacteria that resulted in another months stay in hospital with continuous anti biotics, then released and under treatment for another month at home with the same continuous automatic anti biotic treatment with a nurse calling every day.
    His release from hospital was I imagine brought about due to his hate for such confinement, and his threat that if they did not let him go home, he would turn into the Hulk!

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    He is fine now and we often have a beer together.
     
  16. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    The growing population, eating up and using up and messing up the world would end it with no other cataclysmic intervention. A sudden, massive die-off would cause the collapse of civilization and result in ill-prepared survivors scrambling and clawing for resources in a disease-ridden environment. (Even if the cause of the die-off wasn't contagion, bodies lying around always breed disease and usually contaminate the water supply.)
    And, yes, antibiotic-resistant bacteria are a serious threat.
     
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  17. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    Haha, you really do live in a fantasy world.
     
  18. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Now, you'r just being silly.

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    One wonders, is your supposed ignorance feigned or real?
     
  19. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Happy to hear he is doing okay now! Hospitals are a hot mess for spreading infection, it's crazy. That should be the last place we all head for if the end of the world is coming.

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  20. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    It ain't the germs' fault, they just go along with the sick people, then stay awhile looking for a new host.

    When you are opened, you are open, and the germs love it.
    Better the common germs one might find in a woodland?
     
  21. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    What is going to cause this sudden die-off of most of the population?
     
  22. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    A number of things might, but we were talking about pandemic. This wasn't my prediction; I merely tried to show how the two funny things you mentioned - overpopulation and culling - are not necessarily contradictory: either one alone could cause catastrophic results, and both in conjunction could also lead to catastrophic results.
     
  23. Ivan Seeking Registered Senior Member

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    No, people who vote and live in a fantasy world are not a joking matter.
     

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