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Malachi
09-23-02, 08:03 PM
*system crashes*

Hoth
09-24-02, 12:12 AM
Meaning is relative to goals. The meaning of meaning is that it highlights paths to goals. If one of your goals is to reach your goals, having a mental function that stamps various things with meanings is useful.

EvilPoet
09-24-02, 11:03 AM
What is the meaning of meaning to you? By that I mean,
what something means to me might not mean anything
to you and vice versa. Again, perception is everything
imo. Know what I mean? :D

sinecure71
09-24-02, 11:37 AM
I've been meaning to find out

EvilPoet
09-27-02, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by sinecure71
I've been meaning to find out
How do you mean that? Are you trying to figure out
what I meant by what I wrote? Or the meaning of
meaning in general?

Walker
09-27-02, 01:04 AM
meanie.

EvilPoet
09-27-02, 02:27 AM
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Bebelina
09-27-02, 04:27 AM
The meaning with meaning is that we should find our actions reasonable and continue to pursue them.
Or, love. :)

machaon
09-30-02, 01:33 AM
The meaning with meaning is that we should find our actions reasonable and continue to pursue them.

OR LOVE.


I agree. Except for the the fact that a lot of peoples idea of love is dropping bombs and starving children. Why yes, I love MY country.......

Walker
09-30-02, 09:33 AM
The meaning with meaning is that we should find our actions reasonable and continue to pursue them.

If that's the case, what's the reason for reason? What actions are reasonable, and justify pursuit? Is this subjective? Does something being ordained by god or gods make it reasonable? What about man? Reasonable as defined by the faculties of man, or men, or gods? Define pursuit.

Please don't compartmentalize life. Some of us take ours seriously.

Merlijn
09-30-02, 10:52 AM
semantics?

Avatar
09-30-02, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Malachi
what is the meaning of meaning?

maybe to understand the meaning of meaning

prozak
10-02-02, 06:09 PM
The significance of significance: that valuation exists.

m0rl0ck
10-03-02, 09:46 AM
How about this; Meaning is subjective truth and its meaning is (like any other truth) in how it fits or interrelates with the rest of what you know. Meaning has to be subjective because it has to mean something TO someone.

prozak
10-03-02, 11:07 AM
Perception is "subjective" thus that's assumed (I hope).

m0rl0ck
10-03-02, 12:26 PM
prozak: Perception is "subjective" thus that's assumed (I hope).

Mmm. That got me thinking. My last post was pretty much completely full of shit. Ignore it.

>_O
10-03-02, 02:07 PM
death is meaning, as no matter what anyone does or anything that happens we will all eventually reach death, like it or not that is what we are all working toward

Bebelina
10-03-02, 03:37 PM
Some take life too seriously...
To find out the meaning of meaning, the ultimate meaning of meaning that applies to all, when subjectivity has been stripped down to its mere brainfunctions, we would have to connect with all that is, to become one with the consciousness of the universe. Which we already are, but are a bit unequipped to fully comprehend as human beings. We have our limitations, they too for a purpose, that is part of the meaning of meaning.
But mostly I believe the question arises as the meaning itself. We are meant to wonder.
To solve that mystery would be too great for us to fully be able to give in to the game. It would simply be no fun, if we knew how it would end. And these rules we have made up before we started playing.

Platipus
10-03-02, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by Bebelina
Some take life too seriously...
To find out the meaning of meaning, the ultimate meaning of meaning that applies to all, when subjectivity has been stripped down to its mere brainfunctions, we would have to connect with all that is, to become one with the consciousness of the universe. Which we already are, but are a bit unequipped to fully comprehend as human beings. We have our limitations, they too for a purpose, that is part of the meaning of meaning.
But mostly I believe the question arises as the meaning itself. We are meant to wonder.
To solve that mystery would be too great for us to fully be able to give in to the game. It would simply be no fun, if we knew how it would end. And these rules we have made up before we started playing.

What are your thoughts in regards to first matter? Do you believe in pre-determined destiny?

Bebelina
10-03-02, 04:09 PM
Free will+Heart =Destiny.
We have been given a free will to be able to follow our hearts in order to reach our destiny. So, we can chose to not follow our hearts and therefore not reach our destiny, but take another path in life. Of course it would be equally valid as the destined one, but maybe not as fulfilling.
But then the question of what is your hearts desire arises. Maybe what feels right , right now, may not feel right at all tomorrow, so then it's matter of when in time you make a choice for it to be alligned with your heart. So when it comes down to it, you can't go wrong. But I don't want to give credit for that to the destiny category, but more to the perfection of the construction we are living in.

First matter? I don't know, but if I were to guess, then I would say it came from the wish of the non physical to become physical.

Platipus
10-03-02, 04:16 PM
We have been given a free will to be able to follow our hearts in order to reach our destiny.

I don't necessarily believe in free will, as each act is in accordance with the will of nature. I can say I am going to leap over 2 tall buildings, but as this is not possible for us in nature, it is neither possible in act. The only will in which we are capable of acting in, is that of nature. Also, what do you mean by 'heart.'

I would say it came from the wish of the non physical to become physical

Explain the non-physical, please.