I was told by an atheist that he celebrates Christmas and Easter and was wondering why atheists do that since they don't believe in what those holidays are actually in celebration of?

Presents?

I wonder if it's anything to do with the fact that both are recognised national holidays?
I mean, bank holiday, firms shut down, TV is full of it as are the shops... :rolleyes:

They're basically celebrations of family and friends. I think you'll find that, even amongst the religious, these holidays have become largely secular events.

It's also worth noting that both Christmas and Easter were pagan holidays long, long before Christianity showed up. They coincide (roughly) with the winter solstice and spring equinox - what happened was that later, when Christianity spread, politicians wanted to get rid of the pagan celebrations, but didn't want to do actually drop the holidays (would have been horribly unpopular). So they just renamed the age-old pagan holidays as Christian ones, allowing them to have their cake and eat it too.

Which is to say that the better question would be why Christians celebrate those holidays at the times they do - they don't coincide with the supposed Christian events (birth and resurrection of Christ), but rather with astronomical events (solstice, equinox, full moon) associated with earlier pagan cultures. These are instances of Christians appropriating non-Christian holidays, not the other way around.

They're basically celebrations of family and friends. I think you'll find that, even amongst the religious, these holidays have become largely secular events.

It's also worth noting that both Christmas and Easter were pagan holidays long, long before Christianity showed up. They coincide (roughly) with the winter solstice and spring equinox - what happened was that later, when Christianity spread, politicians wanted to get rid of the pagan celebrations, but didn't want to do actually drop the holidays (would have been horribly unpopular). So they just renamed the age-old pagan holidays as Christian ones, allowing them to have their cake and eat it too.

Which is to say that the better question would be why Christians celebrate those holidays at the times they do - they don't coincide with the supposed Christian events (birth and resurrection of Christ), but rather with astronomical events (solstice, equinox, full moon) associated with earlier pagan cultures. These are instances of Christians appropriating non-Christian holidays, not the other way around.

huh I remember reading here before that the day that Christmas is celebrated on isn't the exactly that Jesus was born. When was he born and why isn't Christmas celebrated on that day? (I know I've yet to read the Bible)

You might as easily ask why Christmas is celebrated so close to winter solstice.


The western church leaders selected DEC-25 because this was already the date recognized throughout the Roman Empire as the birthday of various Pagan gods. 1,2 Since there was no central Christian authority at the time, it took centuries before the tradition was universally accepted....

....Many symbols and practices associated with Christmas are of Pagan origin: holly, ivy, mistletoe, yule log, the giving of gifts, decorated evergreen tree, magical reindeer, etc. Polydor Virgil, a 15th century British Christian, said "Dancing, masques, mummeries, stageplays, and other such Christmas disorders now in use with Christians, were derived from these Roman Saturnalian and Bacchanalian festivals; which should cause all pious Christians eternally to abominate them." In Massachusetts, Puritans unsuccessfully tried to ban Christmas entirely during the 17th century, because of its heathenism. The English Parliament abolished Christmas in 1647. Some contemporary Christian faith groups do not celebrate Christmas. Included among these was the Worldwide Church of God (before its recent conversion to Evangelical Christianity) and the Jehovah's Witnesses.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/winter_solstice.htm

No one likes a killjoy. The solstice celebration predates modern religions, and successive religions have wisely integrated it into their own celebrations. You can have parties, and gatherings of friends and relatives, and completely ignore the stated "reason for the season" if you want. That's what I do.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5077/saturnalia.jpg

Edit: beaten by Quad.

You might as easily ask why Christmas is celebrated so close to winter solstice.


http://www.religioustolerance.org/winter_solstice.htm

No one likes a killjoy. The solstice celebration predates modern religions, and successive religions have wisely integrated it into their own celebrations. You can have parties, and gatherings of friends and relatives, and completely ignore the stated "reason for the season" if you want. That's what I do.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5077/saturnalia.jpg

Edit: beaten by Quad.

You're not a killjoy. Although I'm catholic I'm glad you posted that. I wonder why no pope has ever changed the date to the actual day in which Jesus was born because that history you just mentioned is no reason why it shouldn't be done. That still doesn't answer though why atheists celebrate it because even given all that you've said, it's still universally understood that it is celebrated in honor of Jesus's birth.

Well the only logical reason is that atheists celebrate christmas because deep down they believe that a 2000 year old invisible zombie jew is waiting for them to die so they can hang out for all eternity in another inivisible dimension.

And any talk about santa is just the devils work. Put the 'n' at the end of the word santa and you get SATAN!!!! That is undeniable PROOF that all people that think SATAN Clause should be a part of CHRISTmas are all just devil worshipping atheists.

And don't get me started on that demonic rabbit that comes at easter, or the homosexual 'fairy' that collects childrens teeth. These are all demons that take away the true meaning of easter and losing your teeth. Which is zombie jew jesus!

Anyway I'm off now to shove a bible up my ass while I pray for forgiveness for a 6000 year old naked man that ate some fruit because a walking talking snake told him to. But first I better do as Lot did and get drunk and bonk my daughters, then if it rains I'll build a big boat and drop past the zoo and wrestle some lions into it.

Damn I love religion!

You're not a killjoy. Although I'm catholic I'm glad you posted that. I wonder why no pope has ever changed the date to the actual day in which Jesus was born because that history you just mentioned is no reason why it shouldn't be done. That still doesn't answer though why atheists celebrate it because even given all that you've said, it's still universally understood that it is celebrated in honor of Jesus's birth.

Also from the linked page:
Any record of the date of birth of Yeshua of Nazareth (later known as Jesus Christ) has been lost. There is sufficient evidence in the Gospels to indicate that Yeshua was born in the fall, but this seems to have been unknown to early Christians.

I'm given a day off with pay to celebrate the birth of a deity that I don't believe in. So I ignore everything but the "day off with pay" part. If Christianity should fade in importance in coming centuries, I should think that the solstice celebration will live on. It's a good time of year to have an excuse to party.

Also from the linked page:

I'm given a day off with pay to celebrate the birth of a deity that I don't believe in. So I ignore everything but the "day off with pay" part. If Christianity should fade in importance in coming centuries, I should think that the solstice celebration will live on. It's a good time of year to have an excuse to party.

ha well Jesus being a deity is something I actually disagree with my religion on. I believe he was the son of God but that doesn't make him a god. I used to doubt the religion I was raised in, but then I saw a documentary that restrengthen my faith called, "The Rite" I guess the winter is a good time to party but I bet most would say that the summer is an even better time to party.

I am neither a believer nor an atheist, yet I respect the beliefs of others because most of the holidays fall near to the Pagan holidays.

It really doesn't matter to me what people believe. At roughly 6 week intervals, the seasons are changing and it marks a good occasion to get together with family or community and compare notes, share food and celebrate.

The following dates and descriptions of what is being celebrated from this website, posted just for information, not an endorsement. http://www.catanna.com/paganholidays.htm


Yule / Winter Solstice on or near December 21st
Here in the northern hemisphere, nights get longer and days get shorter until the day of the Winter Solstice when the cycle reverses. The word Yule comes from the Norse Jul meaning wheel. On this darkest of nights, the Goddess becomes the Great Mother and once again gives birth to the Sun God. This is a fire festival so celebrate with a Yule log in the fireplace, candles on the table and lights on the tree. Evergreens, holly, ivy and mistletoe, symbols of fertility and everlasting life, remind us that the cold darkness of winter will eventually give way to the warmth & new growth of spring.

Imbolc / Imbolg / Candlemas - February 2nd
Imbolc means, literally, 'in the belly' (of the Mother) and in the womb of Mother Earth new life is truly stirring. The young Sun God is growing and his strength is beginning to be noticeable. If you look closely, you may notice a snowdrop or a crocus pushing its way out of the still-cold earth. This is traditionally a day of purification, of sweeping out the old to make room for the new... both physically and emotionally. Celebrate by lighting LOTS of candles to encourage the young Sun; if you like to make them yourself, this is an auspicious day to do it. As nuts and seeds symbolize new beginnings, enjoy some sesame cookies or nutbread while visualizing yourself co-creating a loving, joyous & prosperous future.

Ostara - Spring Equinox - on or near March 21st
Named for Eostre the Teutonic Goddess of New Life, Ostara is the first day of Spring. Light and darkness are in balance, but the light is growing stronger as days continue to grow longer. The Young Sun God continues to mature and grow; small tender leaves appear on the trees, young buds are swelling and, here in New York, cheerful white and yellow daffodils are already in full bloom. The Life Energies are building quickly now and the very air seems to vibrate with promise. Celebrate by coloring eggs, an ancient symbol of fertility.

Beltaine / Beltane / May Day - May 1
From the Irish Gaelic Bealtaine meaning Bel-fire (the fire of Bel, Celtic God of light) Beltaine is primarily a fertility festival; the Land represented by the Goddess is now ripe and fertile and the Sun God expresses His Love for Her. Celebrate by establishing a woodland or garden shrine and gathering flowers to adorn your living space... and yourself!

Midsummer / Summer Solstice - on or near June 21st
Midsummer is the longest day of the year. It's not harvest time yet, but Mother Nature is impressively lush. The veil between the Faerie realm and our world is thin so don't be surprised if you catch a glimpse of an otherworldly someone on Midsummer's Eve! Celebrate with a bonfire and if you're into herb magick, any plants gathered at this time are particularly powerful. Or just stroll through a park or woodland area and bask in the glory of our natural world.

Lughnasadh / Lammas - August 1
Even though Lughnasadh occurs at the warmest time of the year, it marks the time at which days become noticeably shorter and so is considered the starting point of the autumn quarter of the year. The autumn season contains three harvests, and Lughnasadh is the first of these, the time when the first corn harvest is cut. The name is derived from Lugh (pronounced 'loo'), a Celtic deity of light and wisdom. At Lughnasadh, bread from the first harvest was eaten in thanks. Baking, sharing & eating bread is a wonderful way to celebrate this holiday and if you can, attend a Renaissance Faire, Medieval Festival or Highland Games competition. The jousting matches and caber & sheaf tosses were no doubt inspired by that aggressive war god Lugh :-)

Mabon / Autumn Equinox - on or near September 21
Mabon is the time of the second harvest, when fruits are ready for collection. The land is showing clear signs of the journey towards winter - leaves are beginning to turn and birds are gathering for migration. Mabon is a time to consider which aspects of your life you wish to preserve and which you would prefer to discard. This is the Pagan Thanksgiving, a time to appreciate and enjoy the fruits of your labors. Commemmorate Mabon by making wine, feasting with friends, planting bulbs to bloom in the spring and put out feeders to help those brave birds who don't migrate get through the long winter ahead.

Samhain, All Hallow's Eve, Hallowe'en - October 31
This is the Last Harvest and New Year's Eve to the ancient Celts. Being "between years," it is considered a very magical time, a day when the veil separating the the physical plane and spiritual realms is most permeable. This is a good day to practice divination: scrying, Tarot readings and Rune casting are all particularly effective. The practice of donning costumes... especially scary ones... grew out of the ancient fear of evil spirits passing through the veil along with the benevolent ones and pumpkin carving evolved from the practice of painting hideous faces on gourds to keep "gouls and goblins" away from the home. Samhain is also a day for honoring our ancestors and one of my favorite rituals is the Dumb Supper... laying an extra place at the dinner table for those who have passed over to the Summerlands.

As we contemplate the Wheel of the Year, we come to recognize our own part in the eternal cycle of Life.

Presents?

And chocolate!

I was told by an atheist that he celebrates Christmas and Easter and was wondering why atheists do that since they don't believe in what those holidays are actually in celebration of?

Presents, Egg-nog, chocolate, beer, excess amounts of tasty food, games, grave digging, etc. In other words the holidays are just a reason to be social and celebrate (at least in the U.S.).

I celebrate it because many of my friends are Christians and they invite me over to their homes or we go out to celebrate together. They have their beliefs and I can live with that very easily, they don't really talk much about their beliefs when we get together because they already know where I stand and also know I'll stand beside them and fight with them if need be to protect their right to believe in anything that they want to just as I only believe in myself.

Jesus wasn't born on December 25, and how giving presents represents the teaching of Jesus idk. Christmas to me represents greed, a trait of the devil.

why do atheists celebrate Christmas and Easter?

The same reason black people celebrate St. Patricks day.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_-1O9jBf4DEo/TRIz07SGNeI/AAAAAAAAAQk/P8L60if9270/s1600/axialtiltcolor-big.png

It's a great night for me and the wife to eat vegetarian Chinese food at a restaurant with the Jewish people and the Buddhist monks?

Which I did this year on hydrocodone from my surgery a day before. Good times.

The same reason black people celebrate St. Patricks day.

that makes absolutely no sense at all. http://www.soyouwanna.com/st-patricks-day-celebrate-10174.html

btw my ultimate question in this thread is still unanswered.

Well the only logical reason is that atheists celebrate christmas because deep down they believe that a 2000 year old invisible zombie jew is waiting for them to die so they can hang out for all eternity in another inivisible dimension.

And any talk about santa is just the devils work. Put the 'n' at the end of the word santa and you get SATAN!!!! That is undeniable PROOF that all people that think SATAN Clause should be a part of CHRISTmas are all just devil worshipping atheists.

And don't get me started on that demonic rabbit that comes at easter, or the homosexual 'fairy' that collects childrens teeth. These are all demons that take away the true meaning of easter and losing your teeth. Which is zombie jew jesus!

Anyway I'm off now to shove a bible up my ass while I pray for forgiveness for a 6000 year old naked man that ate some fruit because a walking talking snake told him to. But first I better do as Lot did and get drunk and bonk my daughters, then if it rains I'll build a big boat and drop past the zoo and wrestle some lions into it.

Damn I love religion!

O.M.G. that was fucking hilarious . What is your stance on Mithra? By the By his daughters are reported to have bonked Lot . There biological clocks were ticking and they were convinced there were no other men . Course they were introduced to the act in Sodom when Lot let the crowd have there way while they were still virgins . Now that is some hot ass porn stories if you ask me . Porn has been around a long time Me thinks . Someone brought up King David Raping Bathsheba . Men have another interpretation you know. Just like Enki and his story . It is said that Bathsheba planed it as it is said Ishtar planed it also . Has anybody noticed the similarity in the to stories ?

btw my ultimate question in this thread is still unanswered.

Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny . I thought someone said that . I mean I am a theist and I still like Both of them . Santa is like Me . He comes from North Pole Alaska in American tradition as I came from Alaska my self . He gives gifts to the Children of the world like I do right on this Forum . Beard Yes , Red Nose yes , Now the Easter Bunny , Everybody likes fertility symbols . There fun. Phallic objects like eggs can be even more fun ( Like benwa balls )are

O.K. it is a little over the top . Granted . I think maybe you should read your bible more if you are a Theist and if you are a theist bashing Atheist. Well I don't know what to tell you ? People don't like to be bashed . It brings out there hostility

O.K. it is a little over the top . Granted . I think maybe you should read your bible more if you are a Theist and if you are a theist bashing Atheist. Well I don't know what to tell you ? People don't like to be bashed . It brings out there hostility

I'm not trying to bash them. I just want to understand their reasoning.

I'm not trying to bash them. I just want to understand their reasoning.

You come to the right place then . Check out the religion and philosophy threads and you might get a great understanding for the information is endless around here . I would say it is one of the most debated subjects going. It rages with much passion . You might even find some like-minded souls to your self

btw my ultimate question in this thread is still unanswered.

'When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

In North America the economy is subservient to the holidays as recognized by the Christian calendar. The majority of governments, industries and businesses recognize the statutory holidays and therefore it becomes a natural time for socializing, whatever one's proclivities in regard to belief systems.

As I earlier posted, these statutory holidays line up quite well with the seasonal solstices, equinoxes and mid-points which are nature's equivalent of a 'circadian rhythm', in a manner of speaking.

While some persons do not celebrate these particular dates, in preference to their own beliefs or lack thereof, I suggest that the majority of persons just 'go with the flow' because it's the path of least resistance.

Besides, if someone else wants to invite you to a meal AND do the cooking, I'll be there with a bottle of wine, chocolate or whatever contribution is traditional. What else are you going to do as the majority of the economy is shut down, save that portion that caters to the holidays?

I can get behind anything.........well almost......;)

The Tragically Hip - Blow At High Dough http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGRNEJiD3PY&ob=av3e

Social pressure. Closed businesses. Might as well enjoy the party.

For what it's worth, I don't do anything to recognize Easter. I think that would be more unusual for an atheist, but if his whole family is participating in something, then I could see it. It's hard to avoid Christmas, but I participate in the greatest commercialized holiday just like others, for the same reasons as the religious do. The gifts.

I don't think many atheists celebrate Easter...unless they have kids and want to do the whole Easter egg hunt thing. For me, it's just another Sunday to watch sports.

Christmas, even for Christians has little to due with celebrating the birth of Christ. It's a time for families to get together, exchange gifts, and feast.

I don't think many atheists celebrate Easter...unless they have kids and want to do the whole Easter egg hunt thing. For me, it's just another Sunday to watch sports.

Christmas, even for Christians has little to due with celebrating the birth of Christ. It's a time for families to get together, exchange gifts, and feast.

Thank you for this, that rather was my point as well, that many people participate in the social and gifting aspect (as in Pagan times) while seemingly fewer are participating in the religious observances and rituals.

Easter, unless one has kids, is an excuse to buy good chocolate at half price on the Tuesday following. Similar with Valentines, Back To School, Halloween, and Christmas. Each candy company has a format to suit each holiday and packages it's wares in shapes and wrapping to suit the theme and colors of the season.

Christmas Day and Easter Sunday are the only days of the year that our grocery store is closed. :)

It's also worth noting that both Christmas and Easter were pagan holidays long, long before Christianity showed up.We even still use the old Norse word Jul or "Yule" as a synonym for Christmas. Jul was their winter solstice festival.
That still doesn't answer though why atheists celebrate it because even given all that you've said . . . .Mrs. Fraggle and I celebrate St. Patrick's Day even though we're not Irish. We celebrate Cinco de Mayo even though we're not Mexican. We celebrate Lunar New Year even though we're not Chinese, Vietnamese, or any of those cultures. So why would we have to be Christians to celebrate their holidays?

Does anybody really need an excuse to party, if the party's already happening? I sure don't!
. . . . it's still universally understood that it is celebrated in honor of Jesus's birth.And how long have you been a professional sociologist, which would give you the qualifications to lecture us on just exactly how "universal" this "understanding" is, my dear little Science Child? If you grew up in a community of Bead-Clickers, then of course you've been brainwashed into believing that the whole human race celebrates exactly the way you do. Well guess what? It's not true. I went to several Christmas parties last season, and there was absolutely no mention of Jesus at any of them! No religious imagery at all. Only secular carols.

It's a Christmas-Chanukah-Kwanzaa-Solstice party.

But even when I was a little boy and nobody had ever heard of the Solstice, Kwanzaa hadn't been invented yet, and there were no Jews within ten miles to tell us about Chanukah, my second-generation atheist parents still celebrated Christmas with a vengeance. We had a big tree, fabulous decorations, lots of cool presents, my mother made wonderful pastries, and I even had an electric train. She had tree ornaments that her (atheist) parents brought over from the old country, those really nice glass ones.

I was conscious of celebrating Christmas when I was five years old, and I never even heard of religion, gods or Jesus until I was seven. In the first grade we learned to sing Christmas carols (no "multiculturalism" in those days) and those were the first songs I ever learned to sing--even though I obviously had absolutely no idea what most of the words meant. I still love Christmas carols because of that and I often sing in Christmas choirs.

Look at it this way: We all celebrate Halloween, right? How many people have the faintest idea what they're celebrating? The eve of All Saints' Day? What the heck is that? Why do we dress up like dead people and ghosts and witches? This is a religious holiday too, but its roots are so far in the past that today virtually nobody knows what it's supposed to be about. It's just an excuse to have a damn big party!

Oh oh oh, I mentioned Cinco de Mayo but didn't go into it. Quick, all you tequila-swilling Americans, tell me why we celebrate Cinco de Mayo? Because it's Mexican Independence Day, right? WRONG! It's the date of a fairly important victory in the Mexican war of independence, but in Mexico nobody celebrates it. Just the people in the state of Puebla, where the battle occurred. They think we are out of our minds for celebrating a holiday we don't understand that isn't even celebrated in the country it's from. It's just an excuse to have a damn big party!

Well, so is Christmas. Go off to your church service if you enjoy it. But the rest of us are just going to have a damn big party. At least we have some vague idea what Christmas is about, unlike Cinco de Mayo!
Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.About ten years ago I read a piece by a sociologist who said that in modern America, Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny are the two most prominent symbols of Christianity.
Easter, unless one has kids, is an excuse to buy good chocolate at half price on the Tuesday following. Similar with Valentines, Back To School, Halloween, and Christmas. Each candy company has a format to suit each holiday and packages it's wares in shapes and wrapping to suit the theme and colors of the season.Mrs. Fraggle is a chocolatiere so Easter is a special time for us. She makes Easter eggs with dark Belgian chocolate coating and her own fillings, like margarita or Midori.

But Easter is also special because we used to run one of the world's largest teddy bear collectors' clubs and I was the Bunny Specialist. I have a really cool collection of stuffed bunnies and Easter is the one time of year when I can move some of the teddy bears aside and put them all over the house.

Frankly, in our house it's called Bunny Day as often as it's called "Easter."
Christmas Day and Easter Sunday are the only days of the year that our grocery store is closed.A lot of Jewish people regard Christmas as a Chinese holiday, because the only restaurants that are open (besides the Jewish ones) are Chinese.

btw my ultimate question in this thread is still unanswered.

Because Xmas is a pagan holiday, and has no barring one weather you are good Christian. Im a terrible Christian, but I still like free shit. Christmas only represents the birth of Jesus, that aspect I understand, but because its not his actual birthday maybe the atheist thinks its a mockry of Jesus, therefor something worth celebrating?

A lot of Jewish people regard Christmas as a Chinese holiday, because the only restaurants that are open (besides the Jewish ones) are Chinese.

I have Jewish friends whose Christmas Day traditions involve eating at a Chinese restaurant and going to see a movie.

Reminds me of this:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/christmas-for-the-jews-song/1177606

I have Jewish friends whose Christmas Day traditions involve eating at a Chinese restaurant and going to see a movie.

Reminds me of this:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/christmas-for-the-jews-song/1177606

Unfortunately, that selection is not available in my region.

So much for 'free trade' and all of that political woo-woo.

Do you have a fall-back position for that selection? :confused:

I was told by an atheist that he celebrates Christmas and Easter and was wondering why atheists do that since they don't believe in what those holidays are actually in celebration of?

Honestly , no offence intended but are you about 14-15 years old? A person that claims to have faith and is a Catholic but hasn't read the Bible, seems odd to me. As does someone that asks your question.

This atheist you mention probably meant that he celebrates the holiday season along with millions of other people, not because of Christianity but because it's fun.
I am an atheist and I love Christmas, presents, time off work, seeing family and friends, it's great (apart from the cold weather).

Unfortunately, that selection is not available in my region.

So much for 'free trade' and all of that political woo-woo.

Do you have a fall-back position for that selection? :confused:

Try one of these:
link (http://www.google.com/search?q=Christmas+for+the+Jews+Song&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#q=Christmas+for+the+Jews+Song&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=Cwt&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbm=vid&ei=w8crTsmVIpKctwfR7KHXAg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=3&ved=0CAwQ_AUoAg&fp=1&biw=1920&bih=1066&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&cad=b)

Well the only logical reason is that atheists celebrate christmas because deep down they believe that a 2000 year old invisible zombie jew is waiting for them to die so they can hang out for all eternity in another inivisible dimension.

And any talk about santa is just the devils work. Put the 'n' at the end of the word santa and you get SATAN!!!! That is undeniable PROOF that all people that think SATAN Clause should be a part of CHRISTmas are all just devil worshipping atheists.

And don't get me started on that demonic rabbit that comes at easter, or the homosexual 'fairy' that collects childrens teeth. These are all demons that take away the true meaning of easter and losing your teeth. Which is zombie jew jesus!

Anyway I'm off now to shove a bible up my ass while I pray for forgiveness for a 6000 year old naked man that ate some fruit because a walking talking snake told him to. But first I better do as Lot did and get drunk and bonk my daughters, then if it rains I'll build a big boat and drop past the zoo and wrestle some lions into it.

Damn I love religion!

Oh my zombie Jesus! That was so funny! I'm getting weird looks from people around me -_- I am an atheist and I have fun during the holidays.There is no rule that says I can't have fun just because I don't believe in old folktales passed down through generations. A lot of the Christians around my area do not celebrate Halloween because of course it's the day I make a pact with Satan, yup the evil horned-angel who I don't believe exists.All Hallows Eve (Halloween) is actually a Christian holiday, in Mexico it is a really great celebration and I got to take part in it a few years ago. :cheers:

Anyway I'm off now to shove a bible up my ass while I pray for forgiveness for a 6000 year old naked man that ate some fruit because a walking talking snake told him to. But first I better do as Lot did and get drunk and bonk my daughters, then if it rains I'll build a big boat and drop past the zoo and wrestle some lions into it.

spoken like a true anti-theist..
(credit for the humor though..)