Pinball1970
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Shh.
The necessary truth of mathematics (?)
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Only in the most general way, or where the presuppositions of views like process philosophy or fringe "process physics" would be dominating interpretations of data.
Even the commonsense perspective about time called presentism actually entails a process outputting absurdly short-lived and quickly extinct states of the world. Though its proponents rarely (if ever) explore the most glaring consequences of what they believe.
Consciousness (as we experience it) wouldn't even be possible in presentism (now-ism), due to an interval of conscious experience (and cognition of it) being measured in milliseconds rather the attosecond to Planck time territory of subatomic changes.
If a constantly replaced global "now" is the only state of the universe that ever exists, then presentism is going to have to objectively accommodate the units for subatomic change, not the "gigantic" (in comparison) anthropocentric rate of a human's apprehension of change. Cognition is of such an extended duration (or chunk sequence of integrated neural modifications) that it could not temporally fit into the absurdly "thin" global Now that presentism demands (since again, it is the subatomic level that must be accommodated, not the "slow" configuration level of a brain).
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Well, actually, it's not a problem anymore. Almost everyone has built-in translators on their devices that translate automatically.I have given this person the benefit of the doubt for a bit, now that they have finally had the courtesy to post in the language of this forum. That may change.
Yes, it's not just the brain that gets older in men...
DaveC426913
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In English essence means "the nature or quality of something". The thing does not have to be physical, it can be conceptual. A poem's theme can have an essence.
That may be true but it is a red herring.
Matter having processes does not mean that matter is a process.
A human has a spleen, but that does not mean a human is a spleen.
And now the question is: "why doesn't matter "gravitate" at absolute zero"?
Write4U
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It is unavoidable. Biology unfolds at that level, starting with abiogenesis, the process of nonliving matter acquiring biochemical complexity and ability to use energy for dynamical activities.
FUNDAMENTALS OF CELL BIOLOGY
The Stages Of Cell Signaling
---------------Quorum Sensing-----------------------------Self-referential communication---------------------Inter-cellular communication-------
---------------------------------Neural transmission---------------------------
At the most basic level, signaling happens in the following stages:
- A signal is sent. There are a number of ways this could happen. A cell could release a molecular cue, or the environmental conditions themselves could provide the molecule that is being detected. We’ll do a more in-depth exploration of signals and ligands shortly.
- This signal is received by the cell. This will require a receptor to recognize the signal and respond to it. Most often the receptor is at the cell surface, since that’s where signals would arrive first, but it doesn’t have to be. Nitric oxide (NO) is an example of a signaling molecule that can diffuse across cell membranes, so its receptor is in the interior of the cell.
- The signal is “interpreted” by the cell that receives it. This could involve a number of things, like splitting the signal so that multiple responses are possible; it also likely involves transferring the signal across the plasma membrane by activating specific internal responses. This interpretation step is called transduction.
- Finally, the cell responds to the signal. A cell could have multiple responses to a signal. Some responses are fast, while others are slow. If the signal is used to start a process, like cell division, apoptosis, or changes in cell identity, then there could be multiple changes in the cell as it prepares for the new behavior.
Cell Signaling – Fundamentals of Cell Biology
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THE CELL CYCLE AND MITOSIS
The Cell Cycle and Mitosis – Fundamentals of Cell Biology
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Write4U
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And what logically follows to that is the question if in a dynamic universal manifold there is such a thing other than dynamical processes, i.e., Chaos?
Seems that the concept of stasis at any level, point, or temperature is pure mathematical theory, but cannot ever be achieved without destroying "superposition" and "quantum processes" at Planck scale.
Can a non-dynamical universe exist?
According to CDT (Causal Dnamical Triangulation) the universal spacetime fabric itself unfolds as a process, rather than exist as a state of being.
Causal dynamical triangulation - Wikipedia
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exchemist
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No it isn’t.
So you think that a body cooled to absolute zero will gravitate?
exchemist
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Gravitation is a function of mass, not temperature.
F = GMm/r², in which F is the force of gravity between 2 bodies with masses M and m, r is the distance between their centres of mass, and G is Newton's constant of gravitation.
Temperature does not appear in this expression.
Temperature does not appear in this expression, but energy is appear. What will the mass be at zero energy?
exchemist
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No, energy does not appear in this expression either.
Only force (F) , mass (M and m), distance (r) and Newton's constant of gravitation (G), as I told you.
The equivalent of mass and energy?
Pinball1970
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and huge pastes again. This would have been useful for study in the 1980s why are you reminding me? I still have the text books.It is unavoidable. Biology unfolds at that level, starting with abiogenesis, the process of nonliving matter acquiring biochemical complexity and ability to use energy for dynamical activities.
FUNDAMENTALS OF CELL BIOLOGY
The Stages Of Cell Signaling
---------------Quorum Sensing-----------------------------Self-referential communication---------------------Inter-cellular communication-------
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At the most basic level, signaling happens in the following stages:
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- A signal is sent. There are a number of ways this could happen. A cell could release a molecular cue, or the environmental conditions themselves could provide the molecule that is being detected. We’ll do a more in-depth exploration of signals and ligands shortly.
- This signal is received by the cell. This will require a receptor to recognize the signal and respond to it. Most often the receptor is at the cell surface, since that’s where signals would arrive first, but it doesn’t have to be. Nitric oxide (NO) is an example of a signaling molecule that can diffuse across cell membranes, so its receptor is in the interior of the cell.
- The signal is “interpreted” by the cell that receives it. This could involve a number of things, like splitting the signal so that multiple responses are possible; it also likely involves transferring the signal across the plasma membrane by activating specific internal responses. This interpretation step is called transduction.
- Finally, the cell responds to the signal. A cell could have multiple responses to a signal. Some responses are fast, while others are slow. If the signal is used to start a process, like cell division, apoptosis, or changes in cell identity, then there could be multiple changes in the cell as it prepares for the new behavior.
Cell Signaling – Fundamentals of Cell Biology
THE CELL CYCLE AND MITOSIS
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The Cell Cycle and Mitosis – Fundamentals of Cell Biology
Write4U:
Stimulation and reaction is not cognition, either. Cognition is a mental process. Lifeforms that don't have brains don't have cognition.
Also, you should learn to use the word "quantum" correctly. Remember when we explained it to you? No?
Yes it does. (See how pointless it is, when you don't even try to justify your position?)
Natural selection isn't a mathematical function. You ought to find out what a mathematical function is.
Natural selection is not a pattern.
It doesn't need to know anything to do maths? How can it do maths without knowing any maths?
Where's the maths in that?
Exactly my point.
"Stimulation and reaction" is not also known as "detection and a comparative".
Stimulation and reaction is not cognition, either. Cognition is a mental process. Lifeforms that don't have brains don't have cognition.
No amount of buzz words will help clean up your mess.
You do. You claim that when something detects something else, it is "doing maths". That's wrong.
Stimulants aren't "mathematical values". Nor do they have mathematical values, unless we humans assign some to them.
What are you talking about?
It begins with a human being thinking about natural processes.
A muon is not a physical property.
Also, you should learn to use the word "quantum" correctly. Remember when we explained it to you? No?
No. Go back to basics. What is a quantum? What does that word mean, Write4U? Hint: it has nothing to do with probability or physics.
No. Terminal speed doesn't control anything. Terminal speed is a measure of how fast an object is moving when it is no longer accelerating, as it falls through a fluid.
DaveC426913
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Oh ugh.
In all this time, W4U still uses 'quantum' as a buzzword? He has learned nothing?
Even a chatbot can learn better than that.
Write4U:
Lose the microtubules. We've done them.
Microtubules are dead. Let them rest in peace.
Look, you seem like a slow learner, so I'm going to spell this out for you explicitly: IF you continue to try to reopen the closed discussion of microtubules by posting about them in this or any other thread, you will receive an official warning for trying to override a moderator's decision. At the time of writing this, I see you have 60 active warning points. As a repeat offender, any warning you receive for this will come with 20 warning points. Result: two weeks away from the forum for you.
Clear?
Are you trying to get yourself banned again?
Lose the microtubules. We've done them.
Stop evangelising, please. Nobody here is interested in your religion any more.
Where are all these cut and pastes from? All those numbers, like 1234. Are they footnotes in some article you've plagiarised? Or are you getting MS Copilot to write your posts for you, again?
I won't be deleting this. I WILL be issuing you with further warnings if you keep this up.
Microtubules are dead. Let them rest in peace.
Look, you seem like a slow learner, so I'm going to spell this out for you explicitly: IF you continue to try to reopen the closed discussion of microtubules by posting about them in this or any other thread, you will receive an official warning for trying to override a moderator's decision. At the time of writing this, I see you have 60 active warning points. As a repeat offender, any warning you receive for this will come with 20 warning points. Result: two weeks away from the forum for you.
Clear?
exchemist
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Do you really think objects at absolute zero become massless?
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