# 2 dimensions into 3 dimensions

Again, this is circular.

Why can it not exist? Because, as you say, it needs to be 3-dimensional (have depth) to exist.

QQ raises a good point. The surface of a table certainly exists, yet it has no depth.

The surface of an actual table is a layer of atoms that has quantifiable thickness.

The surface of a mathematical cylinder is a two-dimensional manifold that has no thickness.

Math $$\neq$$ physics.

If one describes just one surface of a solid cube is that surface 2 or 3 dimensional?

The surface of an actual table is a layer of atoms that has quantifiable thickness.
No it isn't. A glass sitting on the table knows nothing of its composition or thickness. It knows the surface only as a 2-dimensional barrier.

The surface of an actual table is a layer of atoms that has quantifiable thickness.

The surface of a mathematical cylinder is a two-dimensional manifold that has no thickness.

Math $$\neq$$ physics.
Do the atoms have a 2d surface or not?

Do the atoms have a 2d surface or not?

Define atomic " surface " .

Define atomic " surface " .
What a glass on the table experiences.

The table could be a mile thick and the glass doesn't know it. All it knows it the zero thickness surface.

What a glass on the table experiences.

The table could be a mile thick and the glass doesn't know it. All it knows it the zero thickness surface.

How does this make sense to you ?

How does this make sense to you ?
How does it not make sense to you?

"Ask" the glass how thick the table is.
The glass will "say" I haven't the foggiest notion. I know it's there because it keeps me from hitting the floor.

How does it not make sense to you?

"Ask" the glass how thick the table is.
The glass will "say" I haven't the foggiest notion. I know it's there because it keeps me from hitting the floor.

Irrelevant to this discussion , of 2D into 3D .

Could we consider then that all outer surfaces of any solid are 2 dimensional?

If one describes just one surface of a solid cube is that surface 2 or 3 dimensional?
Formally 2D, but nitpicking might get one into quasi-fractal dimension territory if you really want to drill down to a level where the surface will be rough.
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Couldn't have done it without you.

Could we consider then that all outer surfaces of any solid are 2 dimensional?

No

Why not?

Formally 2D, but nitpicking might get one into quasi-fractal dimension territory if you really want to drill down to a level where the surface will be rough.
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Fractals are only found in life forms , just so we understand .

Fractals are only found in life forms , just so we understand .
Genuine fractals are found nowhere in nature, but only as truncated i.e. quasi-fractals. And certainly not just or even typically in life forms. The quintessential example is coastlines - not living last time I checked.

Genuine fractals are found nowhere in nature, but only as truncated i.e. quasi-fractals. And certainly not just or even typically in life forms. The quintessential example is coastlines - not living last time I checked.

Disagree

Fractals , examples of fractals are always based on life .

Give me a fractal that is inorganic .

Disagree

Fractals , examples of fractals are always based on life .

Give me a fractal that is inorganic .
Maybe you should type "fractal" into your search bar, and stop at the very first hit, which for me is to a Wikipedia link by the same name. Plenty of inorganic and organic examples of what may be loosely called 'fractals'. As per that article, there is some debate over the proper definition for fractals, and it gets into various categories and sub-categories if one wants to venture in really deep. But, if wishing to persist with that organic-only peculiar restriction - argue it out with the authors of textbooks on the subject who will strongly disagree with you.
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Maybe you should type "fractal" into your search bar, and stop at the very first hit, which for me is to a Wikipedia link by the same name. Plenty of inorganic and organic examples of what may be loosely called 'fractals'. As per that article, there is some debate over the proper definition for fractals, and it gets into various categories and sub-categories if one wants to venture in really deep. But, if wishing to persist with that organic-only peculiar restriction - argue it out with the authors of textbooks on the subject who will strongly disagree with you.
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So give an example of this plethora of in-organic fractals .