A link betweeen Dualism

[martinhd28v01]

Genetics may be the link between daulism. Genes are a physical model of the mental ideas and behavior. Say I'm a really high strung person and come from a really high strung family, then I move near the beach and adapt a much less stressful life, the people around me are also alot more laid back and as a result of this I am now a much different person, the enviornment has helped change something that I was geneticly prone to. Genes effect you and you can effect your genes. Now if I have childern and pass them my newly aquired genetical make-up they may adapt a more laid back attitude. Say you live your life a certian way and one day here an idea that makes you completely change the way you live and your behavior, this will effect your genes and your genes are physical(tangable). yet the change is influenced by something idealistic(intangable). This has always made it hard for me to really beleive in the world as actually being just physical or just mental, to me it just seems easy to see how they go together.

 

[Xenu]

I think I grasp your post. I think you are saying that genes are the link between the mind and body. Kind of makes sense, saying that both the mind and body come from genes.

I like to look at it this way. The mind is a function of the body. For instance you have a car, when all the parts work in harmony, the car produces a function: can move and take you places. The function emerges when the system is working in harmony. Same thing with the body. When the parts of the body work in harmony, the mind emerges, a function of that system.

 

[martinhd28v01]

I'm just trying to show that something intangable, such as an idea can have an effect in the physical world, such as your genes. Basically that enviornment has an effect on genes. Say you pick up a habit or hobby that no one in your family previous had, this could have an effect on your offspring, they could be passed on your new trait, a trait that was once an intangable idea, has now become a physical and tangable sequence of DNA molecules.

 

[Tiassa]

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I'm just trying to show that something intangable, such as an idea ....

But ideas are tangible. They are thought impulses, which have a physical value in the Universe. (The last I heard, the Institute for Noetic Sciences was looking for proposals to quantify the physical properties of thought; have not heard of the experiment itself or the results.)

The concept, in its academic abstract, of any idea is intangible. But once you encounter the idea and respond to it, it exists in a tangible way.

And with many ideas, this sort of a nitpick might prove irrelevant, but I think it's vital to the considerations of the topic.

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Tiassa

 

[errandir]

Originally posted by martinhd28v01
...something intangable, such as an idea can have an effect in the physical world, such as your genes.

I was not aware of this phenomenon. Thinking about something can adjust DNA? How does this come about? Does thought (electrical impulses from the brain) influence the ribosomes or directly manipulate the chromosomes as a whole? I find it highly unlikely that every cell in the body is effected identically. Is the effect restricted to the reproductive organs?

Originally posted by martinhd28v01
...enviornment has an effect on genes.

Albeit difficult to quantify parametrically/attributively, the environment IS tangible, not abstract. Generalizations of the environment are perhaps abstract (the way we feel about living in the ghetto, etc.). Is that what you mean, the feelings induced?

 

[DarkEyedBeauty]

First of all....your environment cannot alter your genes. Your genes will remain the same, no matter what attitude you adopt.

Secondly....a link between dualism and what?....

or do you mean a link between the mind and the body?

Are you advocating dualism?...because there are much better examples of why the body and mind have causal connections.

 

[Mystech]

Originally posted by martinhd28v01
Say you live your life a certian way and one day here an idea that makes you completely change the way you live and your behavior, this will effect your genes and your genes are physical(tangable).

This idea was called Lamarckian evolution and I believe that it was discredited even before Darwin came out with his theory of natural selection. This is a very simple theory to disprove because it would have to show that someone's genetic structure has actually changed after some sort of drastic life altering event.

You can probably look this up on the web, I am too lazy to provide links.