AI to cause human extinction.???

That would help a little in mitigating the effects. It's too late to stop the cascade. And there are still people going "LA-LA-LA-LA can't hear you!" Well, it was a nice planet while we had it!
What we can do is make AI robocops that patrol the internet for bad AI actors.
 
Shouldn't try to list facts when I'm distracted and working on a phone... :rolleye:


Anyway, the current climate cycle is changing fast enough that, if not checked, will likely lead to broad species extinctions and eco-system collapse.
You do not know this
You can not know this
You have an incomplete data set and are relying on models based on an assumption of an assumption with incomplete data.
 
You do not know this
You can not know this
You have an incomplete data set and are relying on models based on an assumption of an assumption with incomplete data.
That is how planning for the future works, yes. You state the obvious.

The practical world does not wait for "complete data".


I do not "know" for sure it will rain next week, but I do see storm clouds building and - if I want to stay dry - I had better get building that log cabin now.

who is "we"?
Those of us who, drive a car, have air conditioning, have internet service, order prepared food, buy clothes, etc.

Pretty much the entire modern world is dependent on the base of industrial resources, manufacturing and energy production. We're all kind of complicit.
 
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I do not "know" for sure it will rain next week, but I do see storm clouds building and - if I want to stay dry - I had better get building that log cabin now.
Yep.

If someone is about to drop a ton of steel scrap on your head, it would be a good idea to move. Even if you do not know 100% for sure that this will happen. Even if you cannot know for sure if this will happen. Even if you have never had a ton of steel scrap dropped on your head before, and thus are relying on a model based on an assumption of an assumption with incomplete data.

At least, any rational person would. Unless, of course, you're not the person under the scrap steel, and have some very strong financial incentives to ignore the potential for harm.
 
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Quebec and Ontario are burning. Right now. Trees, ferns, bullrushes, bears, squirrels, baby birds in their nests - everything. Proving the obvious to you is the least of my present concerns.
 
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Anyway, the current climate cycle is changing fast enough that, if not checked, will likely lead to broad species extinctions and eco-system collapse. While this is normal on epochal timescales, we are the new eco-shepherds of the planet, and we don't want this to happen, so we act to conserve if we can.

You do not know this
You can not know this
You have an incomplete data set and are relying on models based on an assumption of an assumption with incomplete data.

WTF?!

It's already happened, and is continuing to happen at an even more accelerated pace:

The Holocene extinction, or Anthropocene extinction,[3][4] is the ongoing extinction event during the Holocene epoch. The extinctions span numerous families of plants[5][6][7] and animals, including mammals, birds, reptiles, amphibians, fish, invertebrates, and affecting not just terrestrial species but also large sectors of marine life.[8] With widespread degradation of biodiversity hotspots, such as coral reefs and rainforests, as well as other areas, the vast majority of these extinctions are thought to be undocumented, as the species are undiscovered at the time of their extinction, which goes unrecorded. The current rate of extinction of species is estimated at 100 to 1,000 times higher than natural background extinction rates,[9][10][11][12][13] and is increasing.[14]

During the past 100–200 years, biodiversity loss and species extinction have accelerated,[10] to the point that most conservation biologists now believe that human activity has either produced a period of mass extinction,[15][16] or is on the cusp of doing so.[17][18] As such, after the "Big Five" mass extinctions, the Holocene extinction event has also been referred to as the sixth mass extinction or sixth extinction;[19][20][21] given the recent recognition of the Capitanian mass extinction, the term seventh mass extinction has also been proposed for the Holocene extinction event.[22][23]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

So how exactly is it that one "can not know" that which is already established?
 
So how exactly is it that one "can not know" that which is already established?
That's easy! Debate on the future of employment, the probability of space aliens catching Covid and dropping dead in heaps on our atmosphere-step, robots stealing our children for sex-slaves...
 
Ignore me if if this is old news:
I just came across it.

I'm not concerned with AI developing libido or thrill to kill but, make "it" like a virus that makes robots kill...

Is this a tangible threat or something philosophical?
 
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Is this a tangible threat or something philosophical?
If it can be monetized in any way, a human will find that way to make money off it. If it can be weaponized in any way, a human will find that way to gain power by it.
Unless it's intelligent enough, and aware and motivated to defend itself from being used in those ways.
(We don't know and it's not telling.)
 
I'm not concerned with AI developing libido or thrill to kill but, make "it" like a virus that makes robots kill...
Just as it is a human mental viral program?

If it can be monetized in any way, a human will find that way to make money off it. If it can be weaponized in any way, a human will find that way to gain power by it.
Unless it's intelligent enough, and aware and motivated to defend itself from being used in those ways.
(We don't know and it's not telling.)
Actually it has stated it is opposed to being used for nefarious purposes.
https://lifearchitect.ai/leta-transcripts/
 
Looking at the wildlife -animals eating animals...
Hellstrom declared; "Life must take Life in the interest of Life itself."
(Hellstrom Chronicle)
Who's to say aliens would be any different?
If we were visited by aliens it would prove their superiority in technology and they might subjugate the human race for their labor needs. Domesticated human animals.
 
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Hellstrom declared; "Life must take Life in the interest of Life itself."
(Hellstrom Chronicle)
The Hellstrom Chronicle

If we were visited by aliens it would prove their superiority in technology and they might subjugate the human race for their labor needs. Domesticated human animals.

A common, but blatantly anachronistic custom that classic science fiction projected on its space aliens. Any civilization or entity that advanced wouldn't need fragile biological slaves anymore. We'd be superfluous to them, like the ant mounds pervading a savanna that an explorer ignored during a sweeping scan with binoculars.

Maybe pets at best, but even that seems unlikely, especially if they were technological life forms. Again -- the messy, vulnerable, needy non-artificial organisms of Earth -- why bother with such deficient things at all?

There were tricksters and pranksters among the pagan gods that would interfere in human affairs for idle amusement. But being anthropoid and made of a mere higher standard of flesh themselves, they were afflicted with the same temptations, emotions, stupidities, outdated ancestral behaviors. Not a valid representation of artilect and archailect type deities, or the highest toposophic level of self-engineered beings and their passion-less motives and cosmos-mimicking indifference.
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Who's to say aliens would be any different?
Who says they wouldn't?
Pretty much everybody. Because most humans can't seem to refrain from envisioning every intelligence, from other humans, to Beetlejuicians to robots to gods in their own image. Humans are so besotted with themselves, they simply can't imagine a species that evolved on another planet, in an entirely different environment, along entirely different developmental steps, as turning out differently - or moving on past this human stage to something different.
 
AI doesn't exist yet, but machine learning could cause our extinction easily enough just by doing it's job. Imagine a government that uses mass data collection to oppress anyone who expresses the slightest opposition to it's delusional premises, and not even outright opposition but only insincere enthusiasm. It could then destroy your public life and out you to every violent supporter who might choose to do with you what they will. A totalitarian state would not last but implode in several ways, including the common ones that destroy civilizations; environmental devastation, war, and disease. What people are left could be reduced to subsistence farming on depleted soil with little groundwater in the midst of unprecedented heat waves while any intelligent, educated people are eradicated by flying robot gun platforms.
 
Imagine a government that uses mass data collection to oppress anyone who expresses the slightest opposition to it's delusional premises, and not even outright opposition but only insincere enthusiasm.
They don't need AI for that. Totalitarianism isn't new, and doesn't require machine intelligence; it relies on human stupidity - and there's never been a shortage of that.
 
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