#### Write4U

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Is playing dice purely deterministic? Can each roll be predicted with certainty?Can physics do that? Does the physical universe not just play dice with itself?

LOL, I meant rather than a single deterministic input, the probabilistic infinite number of possible input variations impacting the mathematical processing function and producing variable outputs.You think outputs of a system might be dependent upon the inputs? Wow. There's a novelty!

Actually I am trying to avoid anthropomorphizing.Are you saying that "choice" is just a matter of appearance? If not, are you not anthropomorphizing the issue without actually addressing what it is that you mean?

This reminds me of a technician building the Rover lander, positing that the mathematics for landing on Mars did not have to be just right, but needed to be just right enough.

I thought that was a really profound statement. It sounded that there is a certain tolerance and elasticity in the emergence of natural phenomena.

Just as the Platonic solids are the idealized models for natural self-organization and pattern forming, never quite perfectly right, but always just sufficiently perfect enough.

This can be observed in the fractal growth patterns of biological organisms and the mathematical (Fibonacci) limb and leaf distribution for maximum balance and receptive efficiency.

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