I apologise if my previous choice of phrase confused you, but I did try to explain above what I meant. There are two things at play: omniscience and control. Control doesn't necessary imply omniscience, but omniscience implies control. I.e. wherever you have a system that allows omniscience, there is control of the elements of that system. [/QUOTE] Gotcha. That makes sense now. Omniscience is not the only element at-play. Though we cannot peer into the Black Box, we can deduce at least one component that must be in there - some element of control - and no, it does not matter, for the sake of the logic, what form that control might take. I think I've grokked what you've been saying, yes?