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Darn, instead of making tonnes of (almost) free $, someone has invested time into blogging instead of patentwriting and selling inventive arse to corporations. Strange choice. Oh well, sharks of capitalism certainly will tear that blog appart looking for "juice" fairly soon.
 
I've wasted enough time with Steorn's cryptic website. Does anyone here know what the operating principle is? For a "free energy" source, they are being very elusive about the means to their extraordinary claims. Since it's impossible to compare what they're hiding with the known laws of thermodynamics, I'm left with a more basic axiom:

If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.
 
hypewaders said:
I've wasted enough time with Steorn's cryptic website. Does anyone here know what the operating principle is? For a "free energy" source, they are being very elusive about the means to their extraordinary claims. Since it's impossible to compare what they're hiding with the known laws of thermodynamics, I'm left with a more basic axiom:

If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.
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I looked at it just long enough to visually discover one fatal flaw. One machine had a superconducting ring carrying an electrical current which flowed through a coil inducing a current in an external circuit. The "inventor" obviously doesn't know enough basic physics/electricity to relalize that places an inductive load on the ring and will quickly use up all the power in it.

I would assume any other devices they present would have equally stupid flaws that would be apparent just by looking at or reading about them. I've no time to waste on such pure nonsense.
 
THEY claim to have found the holy grail of nerd desires....

a way to draw energy directly from magnetic fields...

since these magnetc fields are due to orbitable electrons which are forever in motion... if we could draw energy from a magnet...

we might cool it... or simply slow its Molecular orbiting electrons...

having rermoved some energy.. the electrons would return to energy levels which are dependant on the temp of the enviorment.

so... while i believe it could be done in some way....

i see nothing which tells me or shows me they actually have it worked out.


but...

im not surprised... if i discovered it, i would keep it top secret until i found a really big investor.

-MT
 
hypewaders said:
I've wasted enough time with Steorn's cryptic website. Does anyone here know what the operating principle is? For a "free energy" source, they are being very elusive about the means to their extraordinary claims.
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The inventors are deliberately keeping it from the public until the 22 scientists chosen to verify their claims have completed their experiments.

It simply doesnt matter what the general public thinks.

Nevertheless they have scheduled a public demonstration in London this July.
 
The inventors are deliberately keeping it from the public until the 22 scientists chosen to verify their claims have completed their experiments.
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Or alternatively they are keeping it as secret as possible for as long as possible to get as much money as possible before it's shown that it's total rubbish. By which time it will be too late for the investors to get their money back...
It simply doesnt matter what the general public thinks
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.. so long as they're gullible enough to invest.
 
Oli said:
Or alternatively they are keeping it as secret as possible for as long as possible to get as much money as possible before it's shown that it's total rubbish. By which time it will be too late for the investors to get their money back...
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I believe the owner has stated in the recent interview video on the Steorn site that they are not soliciting investment until there is a scientific verdict on their tech...who knows?

This from the Gizmag site which is following the story:

"Steorn is not a new company; it was previously responsible for some elegant innovations, and though it is not a good financial performer it maintains a decent client base, which would disappear completely should this free energy initiative fall through. There was also the full page ad in The Economist – if it is a prank, it is a very expensive one, and if it is a scam they have not as yet asked for any donations. Finally there are the 22 renowned scientists engaged to test the machine; scientists who could possibly seek compensation from Steorn if it is proven to have deliberately misled them. Among the well of possible outcomes there are two more worth a mention – Steorn is honestly mistaken in its belief, or Steorn is absolutely correct. Until July though, all we can do is sit back and wait. Unless there are any bookmakers willing to tally the odds of the possible outcomes, in which case it might be possible to make this historic milestone...more interesting."
 
Oli said:
Or alternatively they are keeping it as secret as possible for as long as possible to get as much money as possible before it's shown that it's total rubbish. By which time it will be too late for the investors to get their money back...

.. so long as they're gullible enough to invest.
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Exactly!!! :D

If you'd like to check out the King of the free-energy rip-off crowd, have a look at Jean-Louis Naudin. He was chased out of France by angry investors who lost everything they'd advanced him, was sued by the attourney general of New Jersey (Naudin lost and was driven out of state) and several other notable "events. "

For look at his latest scam, take a peek at this: http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cach...EP_1_1.htm+"j+naudin&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=us
 
I think the blog speaks for itself. You claim is not as good as the likes of Nikulov, Felsenstein, Magnetic Power Inc and Steorn. There is free energy.
 
crazeeeeeem said:
I think the blog speaks for itself. You claim is not as good as the likes of Nikulov, Felsenstein, Magnetic Power Inc and Steorn. There is free energy.
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Science has acknowledged that Zero-point energy exists - but a level FAR to low to ever be useful.

So I repeat - there's no such thing as useful free energy.

You must have missed my post early on where I completely blew their superconducting ring/generator out of the water! That funky little idea looks like something a kid of 10 would come up with. And I'm betting none of their other stuff is any better. (Actually, I know it can't be any better.)

Question, since you seem like such a devoted believer in their junk - do you actually know anything about thermodynamics???
 
Physical laws are descriptive, man made laws are prescriptive.
 
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