Great victory over political correctness and leftist propaganda

He won't even be able to bring back the 15 dollar an hour jobs in call centres those guys took when the auto plants shut ....... that subsequently went to India ...... because its still a world of globalized capital - and globalized capital will tell him to fuck himself

Funny bit about that.

So, the fact that it's Oregon cracks me up, but is otherwise coincidental. Once upon a time I got a job through a temp agency with a telephone survey firm; I will never do a calling job like that again, and the impossibility of the survey resulted in specifically unscientific results that might well have been involved in the client's decision to run two ballot measures instead of one, thus resulting in the failure of both when they could have probably passed one exactly meaningless social morality bill.

Yeah. (sigh)

That was some years ago. These days, well, okay, so there is this company called out of Portland, Oregon↱, and their name just happens to be attached to a solicitation call I get on my mobile. No, really, for once I looked up the number.

Because it's a scam call.

823 employees providing "communications network services for telecom carriers in the United States", as the Bloomberg profile for the Portland, Oregon-based company has it.

There's a call going around in the Puget Sound region: You anwer, and there is a moment of silence, and then a confused woman saying, "What? Hello? Oh, my gosh! I'm sorry, I was just ... I was having a problem with my husband. I hadn't realized someone had picked up. At any rate, I'm calling because ...", and then a fake pitch about how you used their services before.

Yeah. After the third time in as many weeks, I decided to look up the number.

And that's who I found. It's entirely possible someone is spoofing them, or moonlighting and forgot to hide the phone's caller data. But, yeah. Sadly, these call jobs still exist. Telephone surveys and scams.
 
See... this is exactly the kind of thing that terrifies me. I am legitimately scared for the safety of my non-white, non-straight, and/or non-christian friends and associates...

The only people who are scared are those who have something to hide.
 
See... this is exactly the kind of thing that terrifies me. I am legitimately scared for the safety of my non-white, non-straight, and/or non-christian friends and associates...
You are joking, right?
I'm curious - how do you figure? (or are you referring to Trump?) Sorry... my mind is still mired in the fact that this is actually happening and that this country is really this ready to embrace racism and divisiveness...
I hear more divisive talk coming from the other side. It's gloomy and creates tension where there needs be none.
 
The only people who are scared are those who have something to hide.

Oh, like the random black or middle eastern folks who have been harassed, and even physically assaulted, at gas station pumps by Trump supporters?

Get your head out of your ass, if you are even capable of doing so.

You are joking, right?

No, not at all... since the two of you seem to be utterly out of touch with what has been going on since Trumps victory...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-muslim-hate-trump-supporters_us_57fbcd79e4b0e655eab66379
On Thursday, a Moroccan Uber driver in Queens, New York, filmed a man in a white SUV harass him and call him a “terrorist” in a profanity-laced tirade.

“Trump is president, asshole, so you can kiss your fuckin’ visa goodbye, scumbag,” the man in the SUV yells. “We’ll deport you soon, don’t worry, you fuckin’ terrorist.”

Three men belonging to a militia group called the “Crusaders” were arrested in October for plotting to kill Muslim immigrants in Kansas. The trio allegedly stockpiled guns, ammunition and explosive materials, and discussed parking four explosive-filled vehicles outside an apartment complex largely inhabited by Somali immigrants.

One of the men, Patrick Stein, allegedly said “the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim” and that he would “enjoy” shooting Muslims’ heads.

“When we go on operations, there’s no leaving anyone behind, even if it’s a one-year-old, I’m serious. I guarantee, if I go on a mission, those little fuckers are going bye-bye,” Stein said, according to the FBI.

“I’m going to kill you all!” 55-year-old William Celli allegedly yelled outside the Islamic Society of West Contra Costa County in California.

Police searched Celli’s home after receiving a tip that he was building explosives. There, they found a suspicious device and detonated it. Celli was arrested.

John Martin Roos, a fanatical Trump supporter from Oregon, was arrested for repeatedly threatening to kill President Barack Obama and federal agents. “Obama is nothing less than than a vile muslim trash,” he wrote in one Facebook post.

Roos loves Trump, however. “All hail Donald Trump, the savior of America,” he wrote on Christmas Eve. “I’ll bet he was born on Dec 25 just like Jesus.”

A search of Roos’ home uncovered four pipe bombs, an AK-47-like firearm, a rifle and shotgun, a .45 caliber Glock and hundreds of rounds of ammunition. “I’m a Patriot willing to die for my right of free speech, lets make a news story for Christmas maybe it will be enough to incite Patriots to whole sale cleanse our country of the muslim disease in America,” he wrote in another Facebook post.

Good muslim = dead muslim,” Roos wrote in another.

How about attacking children and infants...?
“Get the fuck out of here,” 32-year-old Emirjeta Xhelili allegedly yelled at two Muslim women who were pushing their babies in strollers. “Get the fuck out of America, bitches … This is America — you shouldn’t be different from us.”

Xhelili allegedly punched the two women in their faces and tried to rip the hijabs off their heads. At one point, prosecutors alleged she even pushed over one of the women’s baby strollers, with the baby inside.

Petty vandalism... classy.
In Bayonne, New Jersey, police say suspect Jonathon Hussey wrote “Fuck Muslims,” “Fuck ISIS,” “Fuck Allah” and “Fuck Arabs,” as well as “Donald Trump,” on the exterior wall of the MuslimCommunity Miraj Center.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/10/violence-committed-against-women-by-trump-supporters.html
Man Says, “I Can’t Wait Until Trump Gets Elected So I Can Force Bitches Like You Down on Your Knees” — October 2016
Writer Sara Nović shared a screenshot of a text message from her younger sister, in which she described being pestered by a man in Penn Station until she told him, “I don’t mean to be rude at all, but I’m just not interested.” He reportedly replied, “Wooowww, fucking bitch! I can’t wait until Trump gets elected so I can force bitches like you down on your knees when you talk like that.”

There are just a smattering of what is available... I'd say you should take a half hour or so and google it, read through what is actually going on... but I doubt even seeing it first-hand would change your opinions on God Emperor Trump...

So, yes. I have started carrying my knife with me, just in case... and once time permits, I plan to go register for my concealed carry. I hope to never need it...

As for your last part, Bowser...

I hear more divisive talk coming from the other side. It's gloomy and creates tension where there needs be none.

That's funny... considering Trump has condoned, and even called for, violence...

http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump-rally-incite-violence/#m4ZHBVDDTiqP
While he wasn't asked about that specific altercation, Trump said of violent behavior in general at his events: "The audience hit back and that's what we need a little bit more of."

He also praised people using physical force at his rallies as "appropriate."

Oh, and how about shitting on our right to peaceful protest..?
As protesters were being escorted out of the rally in Fayetteville on Wednesday, Trump told the crowd that the protesters were not being treated poorly enough.

“They used to treat them very, very rough, and when they protested once, they would not do it again so easily,” he said, before lamenting "we've become weak."

Or his claims that he'll defend his supporters in court if they hurt his detractors...
At a rally in Michigan in early March, Trump again seemed to give the green light to violent behavior. As a protester was being escorted out of the building, Trump marveled at what a "fun time" everyone was having.

"Get him out," he then said. "Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court, don't worry about it."

After a protester threw a tomato at Trump at a previous event, he encouraged fighting at a later campaign stop in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, in early February.

"If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously." He again promised to pay for any legal fees associated with an assault.

McGraw, who was arrested the next day on suspicion of assault and disorderly conduct, told “Inside Edition” on his way out of the rally: “Next time we see him, we might have to kill him.”

On NBC’s “Meet the Press” on Sunday, Trump was asked whether he would pay McGraw’s legal fees, as he once offered to do for supporters who rough up protesters.

“I've actually instructed my people to look into it, yes,” Trump responded.

So... sorry, but no. You don't get to gaslight and dismiss these concerns. YOUR FUCKING CANDIDATE is urging people to violence against those who they disagree with... and guess what. We are getting more violence! What a shocking correlation!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-muslim-hate-trump-supporters_us_57fbcd79e4b0e655eab66379

In the days directly following Trump’s proposal to ban Muslims from entering the U.S., there was an 87.5 percent increase in hate crimes against Muslims, according to The Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino.
 
I hear more divisive talk coming from the other side. It's gloomy and creates tension where there needs be none.
Those who remember W's election, and a surprising number of those who voted for him apparently cannot,

(or Reagan's from way back, same basic scene

can see what's coming here. Cheney & Friends. Bohica government. The monster in the Gulf slowly coming ashore.

Trump really has nominated Rex Tillerson for Secretary of State, Rick Perry and Ben Carson for important positions in the Federal Government involving real life decisions. He really has stuffed his administration with oil billionaires and Goldman Sachs execs and crankbait military generals and comedy-fodder politicians - and his children. He really is still tweeting like a twelve-year-old in the middle of the night, really does have large and conflicting "business interests" all over the world including with Russia. It's not going to turn out ok, ok?

For example: When W nominated - in turn - Harriet Miers and Samuel Alito, for the actual bona fide real life Supreme Court, we weren't surprised. When W's horse show entrepreneur and loyal campaign supporter turned out to lack the priorities and organizational skills important at the head of FEMA, this was not a shock. It was the same general scene we'd been watching play at all the other Federal agencies, only FEMA has to deal with hurricanes - they do their own spinning.

Reality does not take orders, cannot be fired and replaced with something more cooperative. Trump has no more (and probably even less) idea of how to govern a country than Rand Paul, Newton Leroy Gingrich, or Rick Snyder does, than Roger Ailes or Jeff Zucker or Steve Bannon or Rush Limbaugh or Alex Jones has of running an actual newsroom - he's got some skills, but they don't apply to what we hired him for.

Whether or not the typical Trump voter, buried in their Foxhole of fantasy, ever registers the events of the day, bears only on whether or not the blame gets pinned to the responsible, not whether they happened. Fascists do not make the trains run on time - quite the opposite.
 
After eight years of "Obama is a Kenyan-born terrorist" I have to laugh.

Here's an interesting proposition: Browse in private mode at all times.

You know that video argument thing they do, posting YouTube with no commentary of their own, sometimes even refusing to provide any original content? Well, think about that. If you click on that video and watch, then YouTube is going to recommend a bunch more bigotry to you. Well, unless you browse in private mode, or sign out every time you use an online function, and even that latter occasionally seems insecure.

That's the point.

It's crude SEO. Just keep repeating. Create a large amount of noise for search engines to wade through. Normalize as a statistical outcome by flooding the sample.

People like Bowser don't come here to discuss anything in good faith. They come here to screw with other people's lives because apparently they must. Disrupting other people's lives is their validation of purpose.

That is to say, the point isn't to actually prove jack shit; the point is just to repeat their falsehoods and inflammatory will over and over again.
 
People like Bowser don't come here to discuss anything in good faith. They come here to screw with other people's lives because apparently they must. Disrupting other people's lives is their validation of purpose.

That is to say, the point isn't to actually prove jack shit; the point is just to repeat their falsehoods and inflammatory will over and over again.

To which I am inclined to say "no more." This isn't a soap box, this isn't a blog, this isn't a political opinion site - this is a message board. If someone is here to do something other than converse/debate/learn or otherwise take part in discussion in good faith... then they shouldn't be here.

My $.02
 
Here's an interesting proposition: Browse in private mode at all times.

. . . . People like Bowser don't come here to discuss anything in good faith. They come here to screw with other people's lives because apparently they must. Disrupting other people's lives is their validation of purpose.

That is to say, the point isn't to actually prove jack shit; the point is just to repeat their falsehoods and inflammatory will over and over again.


I TOTALLY AGREE!! . . . . . Oh-h-h-h . . . never mind my dyslexic moment . . . . sorry . . . . . I mis-read 'Bowser' as 'Tiassa'
 
That's funny... considering Trump has condoned, and even called for, violence...
Yet point blank, in a camera, he told people to "stop it." You can't hold a man responsible for the actions of others. I don't see an epidemic outbreak of violence. There are people on both sides of the isle who want to cast a shadow on the man's character. When he starts building detainment camps, then we will have a problem, but I don't see that in the future, Sorry to disappoint.
 
Snopes:
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We investigate Donald Trump's claim that the conspiracy theory about Barack Obama not being born in the U.S. originated inside Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign.


David Emery
Updated: Sep 18, 2016


Claim: Hillary Clinton and/or members of her 2008 presidential campaign started the "birther" movement questioning whether Barack Obama was born in the U.S.

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False

Origin:On 16 September 2016, after years of being the most visible and outspoken exponent of "birtherism" — the notion that, despite all evidence to the contrary, Barack Obama was born outside the U.S. and thus his presidency is illegitimate and his allegiances suspect — GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump stepped up to the podium at a televised campaign event and completely reversed his stance on the matter — but not before trying to lay blame for the long, drawn-out smear campaign on someone else.

"Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy. I finished it," Trump said. "President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period."

. . . .

The conspiracy theory was already fully formed at this point. Clearly, the Clinton supporters accused of spreading it via forwarded e-mails knew "good ammo" when they saw it, but, as the above posts show, they deserve neither credit nor blame for the invention of birtherism.
================================​
 
A story originally brought out by Hillary's campaign, no less.
It wasn't.
But it wouldn't matter if it had been, originally - it was immediately dropped by all those people, because of facts, and the only reason anyone has ever heard it since (and something like 2/3 of all Trump voters think it's at least plausible) is that rightwing whackjob internet and Donald Trump championed it for years.

Both the whackjob internet and the Trump are now in the White House, about to take over US foreign policy. That's a big part of the victory over Political Correctness and Leftwing Propaganda (aka "facts of the matter") being celebrated in the OP.
 
Look, we know where the dirt came from and who was trying to start problems, and people were watching. This past election has left me so disappointed with the Democratic Party and the left, I just can't regain any respect I once had for them. What really hurts is that people on the Left haven't learned.


Talk whatever crap you want, we know where the real problem sits, which is why Trump won. I suppose we should be thankful...

 
Look, we know where the dirt came from and who was trying to start problems, and people were watching.
You don't. You still believe there's a pony in a pile of manure you got from the people who brought you Trump.

Because the "we" in this sentence:
Talk whatever crap you want, we know where the real problem sits, which is why Trump won.
is the Republican core voter, and that crowd hasn't seen its feet on the ground since 1980.
This past election has left me so disappointed with the Democratic Party and the left, I just can't regain any respect I once had for them.
You have never had any idea what was happening on the Left, and all your information about the Democratic Party is lies and slanders from the rightwing media.

Meanwhile, you and your "we" just voted to kick about 20 million people, most of them children, off their health insurance. Do you suppose the rest of the country is blind to where their problem is?
 
Yet point blank, in a camera, he told people to "stop it." You can't hold a man responsible for the actions of others. I don't see an epidemic outbreak of violence. There are people on both sides of the isle who want to cast a shadow on the man's character. When he starts building detainment camps, then we will have a problem, but I don't see that in the future, Sorry to disappoint.

Oh yes, he told people to "stop it". So forceful, much serious, such wow. The fact that that is the BEST retort you have to the numerous points I presented is telling.

I would tell you to get a clue, Bowser... but unfortunately, that isn't something you can just buy.

PS - regarding detainment camps...

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/17/politics/trump-supporter-internment-muslim-registry/

Higbie was speaking with Kelly when she asked him about reports that Trump's transition team was drafting policies that would set up some sort of registry for immigrants from Muslim countries.
"It is legal, they say it will hold constitutional muster," Higbie said. "We've done it with Iran, back a while ago, we did it during World War II with the Japanese, which, call what you will."
Kelly interjected: "Come on, you're not proposing we go back to the days of internment camps, I hope."
"I'm just saying there is precedent for it, and I'm not saying I agree with it," Higbie replied.
Kelly again appeared incredulous, saying talk like that scares Americans about what the President-elect might do.
"Look, the President needs to protect America first. And if that means having people that are not protected under our Constitution have some sort of registry so we can understand, until we can identify the true threat and where it's coming from, I support it," Higbie said.
.

Guess what, Bowser - his supporters seem to have no qualms pushing towards them!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...inly-hate-the-concept/?utm_term=.1c6b4fa193ee
When asked whether he would have supported Japanese internment camps, Trump told Time that he could not say for certain.

"I would have had to be there at the time to tell you, to give you a proper answer," he told the magazine. "I certainly hate the concept of it. But I would have had to be there at the time to give you a proper answer."
And what a shock... he's not willing to simply say that he would be against internment camps!

*smdh*
 
And what a shock... he's not willing to simply say that he would be against internment camps!

*smdh*

Ok than allmighty knowing liberal, share your wisdom and tell us all what YOU would have answered to this question. And if the answer is a No, what would you do with the Japanese?

Alien and Sedition Acts have been a fabric of USA since 1798, it makes the country what it is today, a world renowned superpower with security measures implemented to safeguard the integrity of a nation. Without these in place, the country would have been subjected to espionage the results of which would have had changed the nation altogether.
 
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