Greatest I Am's anti-religion thread

A son calling someone father in the proud way Jesus did is respecting a worthy father, but if we look at Yahweh, I do not see how anyone could be proud of such a father.

Well GIA... only the people who believe the nonsense in the holey-Bible are able to accept said nonsinse as truth... so... when you become a belieber you will be able to understand the Bible the way God wants you to.!!!

HTH<---[Hope That Helps]

Yahweh is definitely portrayed as being quite vile thanks to his use of genocide, infanticide and punishing the innocent instead of the guilty quite often. Yahweh is also shown to covet Joseph’s wife, cuckold Joseph, produce a son and then take off for parts unknown leaving his responsibility for his son to others thus showing himself to be a deadbeat dad.

Yes... one woud have to be blind in one eye an unable to see out of the other wit a hollow space between the ears to not realize that.!!!

Scripture say that we are all sons of God. To be relevant to his children, a father has to be around to interact with them.

Its amazin the number of people who make excuses for the bible-God whos in a perpetual disappearin act.!!!

It seems that God does not want to be relevant to us as he remains absent and places us, his children, at the mercy of people who have written scripture more to enrich themselves than to give us the messages from God that they claim to know. Even though scriptures say that God id unknowable and unfathomable and his desires cannot be known.

My analysis of the bible and God does not show God to be a good father.​

Just scare 'em wit a bit of hell-fire an brimstone an its perty easy to get the superstitious to accept God as a good dad.!!!

Do you, as a child of God, see God as a good father or as more of a deadbeat dad?​

Lots of people have real life dead beat dads an they prolly more susceptible to reachin out to silly promises in a old book... sad...

Which commandments do you think are superior; Yahweh’s or Gnostic Christianity’s?

You may use whatever set of commandments you think Yahweh gave. There are a number of renditions.

As for the Gnostic commandments, I offer the following.

  1. You shall place no commandments above these unless proven to be morally superior.
  2. You shall value all people as equal before the law. The inequality of outcome is punishment enough of itself.
  3. You shall live by the golden rule and respond with reciprocity of harm or care to what is done to you.
  4. Use Gnosis and put logic and reason and their proofs above faith, which by its nature has no proofs, logic or reason.
  5. You shall leave the environment in a better condition than what is given to you as an inheritance to your next generation.
  6. You shall not impoverish the next generation and live according to the means you produce as their labor and wealth is theirs and not yours to squander.
Gnostic Christianity and free thinking lost the God wars when the Orthodox Church decimated us and burned most of our scriptures. I think that Gnostic Christians had a superior set of commandments then as well as now. Those commandments were not only meant for seekers after a God but also a guide to secular law. Both secular law and Christianity seemed to ignore the second commandment of equality till our modern era. As a Gnostic Christian, I ask (rhetorically), what took the world so long to catch up to Gnostic Christian thinking and what is Islam and other backwards thinking people waiting for.

Many have a problem with the 10 commandments given by Yahweh so I thought I would see if there is a consensus of thought on the Gnostic Christian ideology as compared to the Christian ideology. The main complaints I see are that Yahweh’s commandments have created a Christian ideology that denies gays and women equality. I think all souls to be created equal and thus deserving of equal human statue and citizenship.

Others as seen in these two link have their own views and I would add that I think Yahweh’s no divorce policy, --- which Jesus confirms. --- and Yahweh’s policy of accepting bribes, ransoms or sacrifices (these are all analogue) to alter his usual and moral policy punishing the guilty and not the innocent, --- to the immoral policy of punishing the innocent instead of the guilty, as exemplified by his accepting Jesus as a sacrifice to save sinners whom God himself created to be sinners.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

I thought you were only suppose to post in your own little arena.
We all already know that you think your beliefs are the best.
So does that prick of a mod.
That is why he wants to shut me up.
No; he want you to keep your trash out of serious forums. You are perfectly free to spew your extremist religious rhetoric in the right place.

Imagine a police officer who wants you to put your litter in a trash can, rather than spreading it all over the park. He is not being a prick, and he does not want to suppress your ides or crush your spirit. He is merely protecting the rights of other people to walk through the park without having to walk through your litter.
Here's a small logic puzzle:
You don't know the difference between right and wrong. You do something wrong, that you didn't know was wrong. You get punished - big time!
The thing you did wrong was learn to tell right from wrong. Now you can choose and take responsibility.
But somebody else gets punished - somebody who is innocent.
You're supposed to 1. think this is fair and right and 2. be grateful to the punisher.
I woud go along wit the notion that it was fair an right an pretend be so grateful that i woud give 10 % of everthang i had to the punisher.!!!
If you have ever had negative thoughts about Yahweh, you are close to a Gnostic Christian.

You have shown that you can think freely and have a decent moral sense as compared to Christians and their less than moral sense that allows them to adore a genocidal God.

John Lennon, “It seems to me that the only true Christians were the Gnostics,”

In fact, many think that the best Christians are Gnostic Christians. Even if you are an atheist, you are likely a better Christian than most Christians as their morals have been corrupted by their beliefs enough to have them adore a vile genocidal God that Gnostic Christians call demiurge. In a sense, not that she exists, but demiurge is equivalent to Satan.

Please remember that Gnostic Christians so not hold any supernatural beliefs and religiously speaking, create much more peaceful people than Christians. The Cathars were a good example of this truth.

Are you close to a Gnostic Christian in how you can think freely and morally?

So the members of IS (and many other extremist Muslim organizations) are (close to) gnostic Christians? That's... special.

evidently he means disagreement (negative) with the unethical or questionable religious teachings of fundamental Christianity. It's also in the religious texts/books. Same with islam. The gnostics took it a step further to conceptualize that a creator responsible for a predatorial universal system is not a loving or moral god/creator and therefore believed that there was more than one god or entities or in a hierarchy.

How does ISIS or extremist muslim organizations have to do with gnostic Christians when it was the Christians who slaughtered the gnostics for their different take on religion? that is just pot and kettle.

the tolerance or turning a blind eye to the unethical does not equate to better or superior morality because it's viewed with positivity or spun as such. It's even worse. figure it out.
Its oK birch... its lookin like GIA is gone so its a grate time to freely dump on him.!!!

An as far as best contributors... this is Sciforums... we dont need no best contributors in the religion subforum who will actualy discuss his beleifs wit-out obfuscation.!!!
GIA is one of the best contributors to the religion subforum because he dares to question.
There is daring to question, and then there is refusing to acknowledge evidence or facts. There is questioning the status quo, and then there is stirring the shit pot just to get a reaction.

Time and again, GIA has shown that he isn't here for discussion - he is looking to preach and proselytize. In his mind, demonstrated by what he has claimed before, anyone who dares question him is the worst kind of subhuman filth this universe has ever seen.