How the Bible could contain genuine 'information' emited by an Infinite Mind (God)?

entelecheia

Registered Senior Member
The nature of God and the nature of the humans are exactly opposite.
There is nothing infinite in human's nature and nothing limited in God's nature (omniscient).

I prefer the word 'information'. The Bible can't be genuine 'information' emited by God; just human intuitions.

Please help me re-define the concept of Resurrection of the Dead: (i find it 100% senseless)

Problems:

#1. reliable translation from the original manuscripts.
#2. to rule out poltical interests behind the making of the manuscripts.
#3. the resurrected inmortals will still suffering existential anxiety.
#4. the resurreted inmortals will feel anti-natural nostalgy because can't engender children (overpopulation of inmortals).
#5. intriged scientists will try to discover the incredible resurrectative-inmortalizing technology. Becoming unscrupulous.

Thanks
 
it is totally absurd what u r forcing being a fact

god by definition is power, while power is the opposite of infinite character

infinite is what is always without having to say i am, and especially without ever using others and making plans with their heads

while true humans by being necessarily real, and when reality is what relate different presents values then reality end is to infinite caracter, then true humans realizing themselves with objective everything around them have an infinite character too
 
Back up a second, I don't know how a mind or anything else can be infinite, that seems to be a completely unfounded assumption.
 
Back up a second, I don't know how a mind or anything else can be infinite, that seems to be a completely unfounded assumption.
Can you conceptualize a non-infinite God?... If God is finite, can he (or she) still be considered an Universal God? I'm starting from the hypothesis that God might exist. Give it the benefit of the doubt.
 
do u consider powerful people infinite???? wat about all those liars and consumers abusers that get all the banks ??? when god powers is clearly by forcing worse conditions of mortal beings always waiting to b killed without know how, how force could have any relation with infinite nature

non infinite is not necessarily finite, when only infinite exist since existence is true, so freedom even of nothing has a character of infinite too

but god as him watever u call creator, is not infinite one

to b infinite u must realize infinity, wat god do watever it impress ur lives, this contradictions lives, has nothing to do with infinity at all, which is the same sense
 
Can you conceptualize a non-infinite God?... If God is finite, can he (or she) still be considered an Universal God? I'm starting from the hypothesis that God might exist. Give it the benefit of the doubt.
I think the idea of god as presented to me has always been nonsensical. I can't relate the concepts of omnipotent and omniscient to anything in the real world.
 
there is, criminal concept so evil life is omnipotent and omniscient obviously

all is to powers and powers is all to destructions of rights and slavery of goods
 
Can you conceptualize a non-infinite God?...
How can a god be anything else? And before you reply remember you are going on the assumption that a god may exist and as such you cannot attribute anything to said god, that is beyond what is possible within the universe (the science framework) we know. But then again it is an assumption so anything is possible, even Turtles all the way down.
 
How can a god be anything else? And before you reply remember you are going on the assumption that a god may exist and as such you cannot attribute anything to said god, that is beyond what is possible within the universe (the science framework) we know. But then again it is an assumption so anything is possible, even Turtles all the way down.

oohhh really???? did the word god fall on u from beyond the universe???? what is this f word mean anyway
u keep inventin adjectives and qualities where there is none, wat divine mean??? also beyond word while any common word is far more intelligent

if u cant justify a word u invented it to mean smthg, then either u r a liar that want to manipulate others for smthg else
or it is nothing to any even concept attempts, so the only mean is the present urself alone about also smthg else u r too stupid and too lazy to look at straight

again i repeat, god is the concept of ultimate power, power by definition is evil so always relative to truth as its opposition

what hurts is what we must b so nothing less then insects for god powers to dominate us that far as if it has absolute powers, n enjoy the ultimate pleasure of evil to pretend being superior to truth, which of course give god life that increase its powers for worse same more real and direct criminal ways

u never mean to b honest that is why u dont even draw the min picture of what u mean to say, n ur logics are always cut never u finish n justify ur sentence rights

literally, power is poo dinamo

it is obvious that the more another have power on smthg the more the thing is smthg else, that could of course b affected negatively by the powers on it but always else

while u keep glorifying power as if it is everything, while on the contrary power will mean that everything are else things
 
There is a scifi hypothetical that should there be time travel or information could be transcended through time, that a "biometric" format of information could be applied to religious texts. This information wouldn't be encoded into the written word like some stenographically embedded code, but actually about how metaphor's can generate pictorial definitions, through such things as "symbolism".

The thing is that no two people will read the same text the same way, depending on how you've been taught, what knowledge you have accumulated over time and what things have factored in on your life will potentially change the way you perceive any piece of information. This is why some pieces of data could be encoded "biometrically" based upon a persons interpretation of what they might read.

Obviously though such a system is meant for spreading knowledge to the masses, as it's about one key persons observations, a person that's involved in it's method of encoding in the first place.

That I am afraid is the closest you will ever get to understanding anything omnipresent or transcendent, but I know this won't be enough to deter you from thinking such things as Dieties as profound, but nothing more than real men wearing a mask of personification.
 
There is a scifi hypothetical that should there be time travel or information could be transcended through time, that a "biometric" format of information could be applied to religious texts. This information wouldn't be encoded into the written word like some stenographically embedded code, but actually about how metaphor's can generate pictorial definitions, through such things as "symbolism".

The thing is that no two people will read the same text the same way, depending on how you've been taught, what knowledge you have accumulated over time and what things have factored in on your life will potentially change the way you perceive any piece of information. This is why some pieces of data could be encoded "biometrically" based upon a persons interpretation of what they might read.

Obviously though such a system is meant for spreading knowledge to the masses, as it's about one key persons observations, a person that's involved in it's method of encoding in the first place.

That I am afraid is the closest you will ever get to understanding anything omnipresent or transcendent, but I know this won't be enough to deter you from thinking such things as Dieties as profound, but nothing more than real men wearing a mask of personification.

Well put.

It is also important to note that the vehicle on which many early Americans became literate was the Bible.
 
absols said:
oohhh really????
What is that in reply too. Does not follow.
absols said:
did the word god fall on u from beyond the universe????
Still doesn't follow.
absols said:
what is this f word mean anyway
What f-word.
absols said:
u keep inventin adjectives and qualities where there is none,
Do I, this is the first time I've posted since, 08-22-06, at 12:07 PM, nearly seven years ago.
absols said:
wat divine mean???
You tell me I'm not religious.
absols said:
also beyond word while any common word is far more intelligent
Incomprehensible!

absols said:
if u cant justify a word u invented it to mean smthg, then either u r a liar that want to manipulate others for smthg else
or it is nothing to any even concept attempts, so the only mean is the present urself alone about also smthg else u r too stupid and too lazy to look at straight
What word are you referring too, that you think I have allegedly changed in my first post in seven years.

absols said:
again i repeat, god is the concept of ultimate power, power by definition is evil so always relative to truth as its opposition
God is just a word invented by humans, it has no other meaning, if it were a word to identify a real thing then it may have more meaning by it does not. It is merely a word.

absols said:
what hurts is what we must b so nothing less then insects for god powers to dominate us that far as if it has absolute powers, n enjoy the ultimate pleasure of evil to pretend being superior to truth, which of course give god life that increase its powers for worse same more real and direct criminal ways
AS said a god would have to exist, to be able to do anything, at this time there is no evidence for any god/gods, devils/demons, orks/fairies, santa or the tooth fairy. They are all just words to describe things from the subjective mind.

absols said:
u never mean to b honest that is why u dont even draw the min picture of what u mean to say, n ur logics are always cut never u finish n justify ur sentence rights
There you go again claiming you know me from one post in seven years, wow!

absols said:
literally, power is poo dinamo

it is obvious that the more another have power on smthg the more the thing is smthg else, that could of course b affected negatively by the powers on it but always else

while u keep glorifying power as if it is everything, while on the contrary power will mean that everything are else things
What Drugs are you on, as you are not making any sense whatsoever!
 
this is the first time I've posted since, 08-22-06, at 12:07 PM, nearly seven years ago.
Welcome back!

What Drugs are you on, as you are not making any sense whatsoever!
Or what medicine did someone forget to take. For some reason absols doesn't think it matters if anyone understands his/her posts or not.

entelechia said:
Please help me re-define the concept of Resurrection of the Dead: (i find it 100% senseless)
If all of the rewards for good behavior are to be paid off like a 401K plan (you collect nothing until after you check out) then the next logical question is, OK, but will I even be there to collect?

Resurrection of the Dead is not an essential feature of early Judaism. Best evidence is that it crept into their beliefs around the time of the early Christian era, probably through syncretic fusion of Egyptian, Mesopotamian and Persian religions. This was probably a windfall of Alexander's conquests ad the ensuing Hellenization, which probably increased the cross-pollination of cultures.

geeser said:
God is just a word invented by humans, it has no other meaning, if it were a word to identify a real thing then it may have more meaning by it does not. It is merely a word.
In other words, the word "God" was invented so that the Anglo-Saxons would have a placeholder to accommodate what their Roman overlords meant by "Deus", which is a variant of the Greek "theos", related to "Zeus", which was almost exclusively used in the worst of paradoxes, the anthropomorphic divinity: the form of a demigod, but superior, as in the father of the demigod. By the time of the conquest of Britain Christians were attesting to the Trinity which appears to be a knee-jerk response to the godhead status of the once revered Triumvirates (three emperor-gods of Rome, sharing power). And all of this paradox and confusion only gets us closer to the definition as we might apply it 15 centuries ago. It's one of the most mixed-bag constructs imaginable, although much of language is like that anyway. And still people like to reinvent new meanings for the word today, such as the new age pantheists who recast all of the material substance of the universe as the substance they think comprises a deity called God. Almost always the construct implies the presence of an invisible, magical/mystical imaginary person, idealized to perfection (notwithstanding the citations of his deeds which include more than a mere Achilles Heel, most notably anger management issues, jealousy, narcissism, and any number of lapses in memory).
 
as if by cuting my post in pieces u can manipulate one by one, u could erase the clarity of my previous post about urs

n to confirm ur will at the end, u call me a drug addict as if wat u did reached its goal at least from u

pathetic individual, u ridiculize urself, ur second post showd the evil retarded u r more clearly then the first

first, being a liar or not honest is never about anyone, by definition liar is only itself and not honest cant exist when all is objectively true

so it is exclusively about right and wrong, which confirm that it is totally stranger to free will

n u by claimin the opposite in reducing urself to what u could relate to things, confirms it from negative ways, how actually u dont even consider urself existing while u mean only powers over everything being else

second, the word god is the word u used that i just meant to correct it, u claimed that god is beyond existence to reach to know any about it, then u r the one that not only believe in god but also worship its superiority, which i correct by stating the clarity of powers being always evil so inferior living

while u clearly more insist here on ur retarded point that reveal again through negative ways the evil retarded u r, that simply want to put god or any supernatural powers over earth and humans life out of possible judgment, while it is u that came to religious discourse and claimd that god is beyond everything

n calling god evil like i do, is wat state hundred percent more the fact that u meant by saying he doesnt exist, since any especially individual cant but b through the best it sees for himself, so wont ever deal with evil powers as existin and nor of course mean to face wat absolutely kill him in all ways of means, literally one is much weaker already if he deals with its opposite so evil to him having powers over himself

so it shows the unhuman u r, that is absolutely careless of any existencial issue concerning the poor n helpless individual conscious beings we are

last, u showed how u dont have the basics of logics use while u insist on pretending knowing what logics show, if god doesnt exist to u, then u cant claim that god is beyond existence, u made double error which confirm the evil liar u r
god the word cant b in ur mind positive if god to u doesnt exist
and what doesnt exist cant b in ur mind beyond existence
 
Welcome back!


Or what medicine did someone forget to take. For some reason absols doesn't think it matters if anyone understands his/her posts or not.

if my posts show that im sick person then im sick to u, n not about medicine

lot of people could b sick but that dont take out their right to post on forums, on the contrary their self expressions is surely the most true there

and who take medicine confirm the fact being sick not the opposite

which show the evil head u r, to jump for taking advantage easily from wat is pointed being weak to recall it as the self source of its weakness

so u can get the benefit in using watever u want of him as if it belongs to u since u killed its existing right fact

this is the evil system of nature life, killing to live and destroying to b

exhibitin how u cant ever b through positive truth

while all my contributions here are clear replies that has nothing to do with myself nor with anything i know

so my communication skills are clearly intelligent which is not a trait that could b shown in a sick person nor a drug addict one
 
as if by cuting my post in pieces u can manipulate one by one, u could erase the clarity of my previous post about urs

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and what doesnt exist cant b in ur mind beyond existence
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Perhaps you will be able to understand that better.

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retarded urself that cant but use words that mean nothing

it is u that should quit posting while u insist to talk about everything when obviously u cant use a regular word

incoherent gibberish generator bother waste ...wat other words did u use mister gibberish itself

and freak, go mean to follow others posts urself so u can at least pretend willing to learn writing a post

when any regular poster on the contrary would always reply smthg totally different since absolutely else being of him still in substance of others posts means

imagining that all others are lost in dark times, dont make u look smart, stupid
 
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