The Marquis
Who said anything about that?
However, it does seem relevant that the people who advocate the killing of other people--e.g. the war party--haven't stopped to think that in all of the West's meddling in Middle Eastern and Arab affairs, the one thing that has demonstrably not worked is the military solution.
One must account for ignorance from any party in a dispute, but two things compel the reflection on the war party:
(1) A working example, provided in the topic post, from the war party
(2) One thing an ignorant member of the anti-war movement has going for them is that their ignorance of Mossadegh does not in any way contribute to their advocating the killing of other people.
I guarantee you that any anti-war pro-Hussein people you might chance to come across (shall I buy you a ticket to Baghdad?) know about Mossadegh.
And I also refer you to JPS's initial remarks in this topic, which bear some insight on why I would expect certain factions of the anti-war movement (e.g. anti-Imperialists and peaceniks) to have come in contact with the story of Mohammed Mossadegh.
Myself, I know very little. My first exposure to it was a rambling chapter in Ryszard Kapuscinski's Shah of Shahs; much hope seemed invested in Mossadegh among the Iranian people. I generally thought little of the episode again until recently. In fact, I had to look it up the first time as "CIA overthrow Iran shah" in Google. I, myself got the Schwarzkopf surprise only several weeks ago and, well ... what can I say? There's nothing surprising there but the irony, which is one of the few pleasures I take from this whole global-domination misadventure.
Incidentally, that's actually my recommended reading list for the time being; two books having to do in their own way with Iran:
- Ryszard Kapuscinski's Shah of Shahs
- Salman Rushdie's Haroun and the Sea of Stories
Kapuscinski obviously is about Iran in that volume. Rushdie is responding to the Ayatollah. The former will be a little depressing, but is a compelling read. The latter will be a bright spot in your weekend.
:m:,
Tiassa
Who said anything about that?
However, it does seem relevant that the people who advocate the killing of other people--e.g. the war party--haven't stopped to think that in all of the West's meddling in Middle Eastern and Arab affairs, the one thing that has demonstrably not worked is the military solution.
One must account for ignorance from any party in a dispute, but two things compel the reflection on the war party:
(1) A working example, provided in the topic post, from the war party
(2) One thing an ignorant member of the anti-war movement has going for them is that their ignorance of Mossadegh does not in any way contribute to their advocating the killing of other people.
I guarantee you that any anti-war pro-Hussein people you might chance to come across (shall I buy you a ticket to Baghdad?) know about Mossadegh.
And I also refer you to JPS's initial remarks in this topic, which bear some insight on why I would expect certain factions of the anti-war movement (e.g. anti-Imperialists and peaceniks) to have come in contact with the story of Mohammed Mossadegh.
Myself, I know very little. My first exposure to it was a rambling chapter in Ryszard Kapuscinski's Shah of Shahs; much hope seemed invested in Mossadegh among the Iranian people. I generally thought little of the episode again until recently. In fact, I had to look it up the first time as "CIA overthrow Iran shah" in Google. I, myself got the Schwarzkopf surprise only several weeks ago and, well ... what can I say? There's nothing surprising there but the irony, which is one of the few pleasures I take from this whole global-domination misadventure.
Incidentally, that's actually my recommended reading list for the time being; two books having to do in their own way with Iran:
- Ryszard Kapuscinski's Shah of Shahs
- Salman Rushdie's Haroun and the Sea of Stories
Kapuscinski obviously is about Iran in that volume. Rushdie is responding to the Ayatollah. The former will be a little depressing, but is a compelling read. The latter will be a bright spot in your weekend.
:m:,
Tiassa