Miraculously Cured of Hepatitis C

[Pinball1970]

There are laws against a judge or jury throwing out relevant evidence to a case.

You have been told that ANY witness can give evidence. No lawyer in their right mind would say, the reason my client killed those women is because Jesus told him to.
Stop being silly.

 

[exchemist]

There are laws against a judge or jury throwing out relevant evidence to a case.

No, I mean in giving his or her judgement in the case. They have to hear it all, but obviously they then decide what testimony is credible and what is not, in a case that is decided by a judge. And a jury does the same in a criminal trial or course. Some witness testimony is not believed and some is.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

Was your case written up and presented to the AMA? Were there follow up studies done on your bloods?

The AMA was not involved. There were no studies. I only had blood work done. It was enough to convince me of the miraculous healing powers on the Lord.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

You mean like suggesting demons are true?

People who claim that Jesus, aliens or demons told them to kill, have to have a psychological assessment from a medical professional to determine if they are of sound mind or not.
The UK law term is diminished responsibility
I would google Peter Sutcliff, Yorkshire Ripper.

The witness must be credible. In the case of Anneliese Michel. The parents and two priests were found creditable enough to use demonic possession as a defense for her death.

 

[Pinball1970]

The witness must be credible. In the case of Anneliese Michel. The parents and two priests were found creditable enough to use demonic possession as a defense for her death.

Can you forward the link that cites demons as the culprit of murders?

 

[bearer_of_truth]

You have been told that ANY witness can give evidence. No lawyer in their right mind would say, the reason my client killed those women is because Jesus told him to.
Stop being silly.

I'm discussing the real case of Anneliese Michel, not an imaginary one. Surely, I have proven that supernatural testimonies can be use as relevant evidence in a court of law.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

No, I mean in giving his or her judgement in the case. They have to hear it all, but obviously they then decide what testimony is credible and what is not, in a case that is decided by a judge. And a jury does the same in a criminal trial or course. Some witness testimony is not believed and some is.

Agreed.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

Can you forward the link that cites demons as the culprit of murders?

That's not my point. My point is that supernatural explanations can be used in a court of law. And they can. I rest my case

 

[Pinball1970]

That's not my point. My point is that supernatural explanations can be used in a court of law. And they can. I rest my case

Yes I agree, I was just asking you for an instance when a jury came to the conclusion that demons were in fact responsible for a crime rather than the accused.

 

[billvon]

Even if you are cured you would have antibodies in your blood.

For some time, yes. Then your body stops producing them. How long it takes for this to happen depends on the person and the disease. This is why you need boosters for some vaccines.

Again, I no longer have the antibodies. It's as if I never had it in the first place. It's a miracle!

It's sad. It means you no longer have immunity to the disease, and the next infection could kill you.

 

[billvon]

There are laws against a judge or jury throwing out relevant evidence to a case.

No, there aren't. A jury can decide that testimony is irrelevant, or not compelling, or just plain wrong. In fact, it's why we have juries in the first place. They get to decide.

 

[billvon]

The witness must be credible.

Agreed. And if you testified, and it contradicted the testimony on a doctor specializing in infectious disease who had worked on your case, a jury would decide that your anecdotal story was not credible.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

It's sad. It means you no longer have immunity to the disease, and the next infection could kill you.

The immune system can always produce more antibodies.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

Agreed. And if you testified, and it contradicted the testimony on a doctor specializing in infectious disease who had worked on your case, a jury would decide that your anecdotal story was not credible.

The same doctor could testify that it was a miracle according to his or her findings.

 

[billvon]

The immune system can always produce more antibodies.

The reason that Hep C is sometimes chronic or deadly is that the body has difficulty producing antibodies for the virus that causes it. If you still had antibodies, your body would be better able to respond to a future infection.

The same doctor could testify that it was a miracle according to his or her findings.

He sure could. But most doctors take a science-based rather than a supernatural approach, and would likely testify that you are one of the many people who clear the virus on their own after an acute phase.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

The reason that Hep C is sometimes chronic or deadly is that the body has difficulty producing antibodies for the virus that causes it. If you still had antibodies, your body would be better able to respond to a future infection.

He sure could. But most doctors take a science-based rather than a supernatural approach, and would likely testify that you are one of the many people who clear the virus on their own after an acute phase.

Jesus would know whether I would need the antibodies in the future. I will obviously not need them.

If I had cleared the virus on my own, I would still have the antibodies. By not having antibodies in my blood, I can bear witness to the Lord's miracle.

A quote from CDC, "Once infected, you will always have antibodies in your blood. This is true if you have cleared the virus, have been cured, or still have the virus in your blood."

Source: Testing for Hepatitis C

 

[billvon]

Jesus would know whether I would need the antibodies in the future. I will obviously not need them.

I know a lot of people who thought similar things who are now dead.

If I had cleared the virus on my own, I would still have the antibodies.

Nope. Your body stops making them after a while. Sometimes a week, sometimes a month, sometimes (if you are lucky) decades. Sorry.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

Nope. Your body stops making them after a while. Sometimes a week, sometimes a month, sometimes (if you are lucky) decades. Sorry.

I guess you missed the quote I posted earlier from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

"Once infected, you will always have antibodies in your blood. This is true if you have cleared the virus, have been cured, or still have the virus in your blood."

The CDC is a very reliable source. My wife has inactive hep B antibodies in her blood for around 20 years now. Once you have the virus the antibodies do not go away. Only by a miracle from God can the antibodies go away.