# Off-topic nonsense extracted from "Developing equation for fictional force created by rotation"

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#### Beaconator

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It would have to be some sort of inequality with a simple equation about torque in order to work properly because you have an edge not any sort of asymptote.

Friction on a rotating disk eh. Must be something to do with galaxies.

you would expect galaxies to form some sort of accretion disk as the black hole consumes the hydrogen, yet they remain spiral due to dark matter. You have an interesting idea.

Actually if this force would really exist, it would maybe explain the galaxy rotation curve without need for dark matter. But this is even more complicated to calculate, there would be like compounding factor, like rotation of central black hole forces the accretion disc to rotate faster and this would force surrounding stars to rotate faster and on and on, until you get non Newtonian rotation curve. But this is far ahead, at the moment I just need a simple approximation for simple disc and then will start to work in my garage on experimental setup. Or not, if the calculation based on equation will show, that the sensitivity needed is beyond my garage equipment
I’m even more interested now that you say dark energy is not a part of it. Now I see it. Two asymptotes peaking at the edge of the disk. The edge of the disk equaling the speed of light minus the gravity of the black hole center. Good luck friend.

The sketch is horrible, but this the best I can do:

R/8pie G=([abs r *f]/square root of 8pie G) sin theta

I might have forgotten Stephen Hawkins equation and can’t find it.

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R/8pie G=[abs r *f]/square root of 8pie G.
Why are there variables on the left side of your equation?
What is f? What is G? (normally, they might be force and Gravitational constant respectively, but that's not a good assumption here)
Are r and f ever negative such that their product needs to be an absolute value?
Presumably by pie you mean pi?

Why are there variables on the left side of your equation?
What is f? What is G? (normally, they might be force and Gravitational constant respectively, but that's not a good assumption here)
Are r and f ever negative such that their product needs to be an absolute value?
Presumably by pie you mean pi?
Why are there variables on the left side of your equation?
What is f? What is G? (normally, they might be force and Gravitational constant respectively, but that's not a good assumption here)
Are r and f ever negative such that their product needs to be an absolute value?
Presumably by pie you mean pi?
Forgot the sine part
Why are there variables on the left side of your equation?
What is f? What is G? (normally, they might be force and Gravitational constant respectively, but that's not a good assumption here)
Are r and f ever negative such that their product needs to be an absolute value?
Presumably by pie you mean pi?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque

Are r and f ever negative such that their product needs to be an absolute value?
Presumably by pie you mean pi?
Yes pie. Yes and the first g should be prime.

Why are there variables on the left side of your equation?
What is f? What is G? (normally, they might be force and Gravitational constant respectively, but that's not a good assumption here)
Are r and f ever negative such that their product needs to be an absolute value?
Presumably by pie you mean pi?
The sketch is horrible, but this the best I can do:

Your green forces should bend at the first circle. Like a ship bouncing off the atmosphere

Yes pie. Yes and the first g should be prime.

It's one thing to jerk around seasoned members, but Ultron is new.

What you're doing here is the forum equivalent of "pantsing" the new kid on the first day of school - when you're in grade 6 and he's in grade 2. That's despicable.

You are a terrible person.

It's one thing to jerk around seasoned members, but Ultron is new.

What you're doing here is the forum equivalent of "pantsing" the new kid on the first day of school - when you're in grade 6 and he's in grade 2. That's despicable.

You are a terrible person.
Yet I guessed his objective. I’m not as good as you at math but I can still try right?

friction can’t be an all around force it would have to be coupled with the other nearest galaxy hence the real need for an inequality and a sine.

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It's one thing to jerk around seasoned members, but Ultron is new.

What you're doing here is the forum equivalent of "pantsing" the new kid on the first day of school - when you're in grade 6 and he's in grade 2. That's despicable.

You are a terrible person.
????? In Ultron's case basic details are not hidden from other ordinary members. Making it a quick and easy search on his Home Page to find:
http://www.sciforums.com/members/ultron.283231/
Joined July 24, 2015. Hardly consistent with being 'a new kid on the block'!
Beaconator also doesn't hide his basic details from others, so one readily finds he joined Nov 3, 2013, considerably less than two full years prior to Ultron.
Given your propensity to making gaffes and frequently contradicting your own professed standards of behavior, I'd suggest laying low for a while would be a good idea.
Try and leverage short memories syndrome to your favor. At least try.

It's one thing to jerk around seasoned members, but Ultron is new.

What you're doing here is the forum equivalent of "pantsing" the new kid on the first day of school - when you're in grade 6 and he's in grade 2. That's despicable.

You are a terrible person.

OK, maybe he is jerking around with the pie, but I dont mind. Im not easily offended by some minor issues.

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Equation for torque is slightly similar, but certainly not sufficient for this quite complex process of combining vectors.

No, it is not perpetual motion machine, the force which is created is slowing down the rotation of the disc, but this is not what I want to discuss, because it is very wide and complex discussion. I would like to focus on the geometrical math problem with combining the vectors or green lines. Actually, there is no direct useful purpose from this equation I seek, but this is just a small part of bigger issue. It is like why should anybody care about unimportant tiny precession of Mercury? Turn outs it was something important to look at.

But reading your reply I realised, I didnt sufficiently explain one thing. The green line force it not a force pushing the disc, it is a force which is attracting something from outside towards the violet line along the green line. Kind of weird focused line "gravity" beam. Yes, it sounds crazy, I know
Some sort of sigma Jacobian.

Some sort of sigma Jacobian.

I dont know what that is and Google search did not help either.

I dont know what that is and Google search did not help either.
It’s two different things$$/sum$$and a Jacobian matrix

hold on they changed text to something different than I’m used to

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It’s two different things $$\sum$$and a Jacobian matrix

Im not afraid or ashamed to write, that Jacobian matrix is clearly above my math abilities

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