opioid~Addiction opioid~Death Pleasure/Pain & Dopamine

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by RainbowSingularity, Sep 7, 2019.

  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    have you tried watching it with sunglasses on ?
    maybe sunglasses with old fashioned 3d glasses over the top ?
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    never heard of that movie before
    watched a tiny clip
    WoW very artfully creative and expressionistic cinematography
    playing with the viewers conceptualization
    i can see why you like it
    it is extremely viscous to the sensory aspect of self analysis (buttons galore)

    it is a BDSM relationship to the self effacing Ego of the cultural actualization
    the disturbed victim must abuse the system to get profit
    the disturbed system must be normalised to moralise the profit

    it is almost a chicken or egg issue with the level of intellectual evolution of the species.
    cant make the next jump without it
    cant make the next jump with it
    must be above it to be able to reach down to fix it
    but cant reach it from standing beside it at the bottom
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  5. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

    It's not a photosensitive thing--to my knowledge, I don't have those and I can even watch Tony Conrad's Flicker without difficulty; rather, the trigger is emotive--something to do with abuse, I'd reckon. Yet (repetition compulsion) I'm very much drawn to that sort of content.

    For the longest time, Werner Herzog was a hero to me, whom I've sparred (verbally) with on occasion. However, in Donkeyboy he seems to be playing my father. In this instance, the parallels are simply too overwhelming. Donkeyboy is an extraordinary depiction of schizophrenia (despite being helmed by Korine). Further, Herzog cast a schizophrenic, fresh out of the bin, as lead in two of his films--the extraordinary Bruno S., as Kaspar Hauser in Every Man for Himself and God Against All and in Strozcek. Then there's Florian Fricke/Popol Vuh actually appearing in Every Man... as a blind, autistic pianist who plays music without development, and Jim O'Rourke's John-Fahey-meets-Charlemagne-Palestine-esque Happy Days in Donkeyboy. It's interminable.

    All things considered--as in me, the consumer, the product and the producers--it's a perfect illustration of what Derrida means by hauntological (portmanteau: haunting and ontology). No matter how cut, banged up, bruised, discombobulated I come out of it, I just can't get enough of it. Content addiction is it's own sort of monster.
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  7. Truck Captain Stumpy The Right Honourable Reverend Truck Captain Valued Senior Member

    highly doubtful. regulation already exists
    even when regulated and easily available in the 1990's by prescription the OD problem was evident and clearly rising

    I know this well. it's not effective on me, but it would have been nice.
  8. parmalee peripatetic artisan Valued Senior Member

    I think that fatal overdoses would be curbed dramatically, however. Oftentimes they occur largely because the user has no idea as to the actual dosage they are using, as a consequence of fentanil and carfentanil (which is, literally, deadlier than nerve gas--1-2 micrograms can kill a non-habituated person--micro! One could take out a decent sized city with a gram of the substance.)

    With things like vagus nerve stimulation, I think it's probably worth trying again, after a time (a year or two), even when no benefit was derived the first time.
  9. Truck Captain Stumpy The Right Honourable Reverend Truck Captain Valued Senior Member

    yes, they would be curbed, but they wouldn't vanish.
    opioids are highly addictive and people really like them for some reason ...

    I've been tested for it's efficacy 5 times in the past 20 years and it's not worked yet. Every time I get a new Dr. or pain management team I end up having to jump through their hoops. that happens every 5 years or so when contracts run out and they switch to new medical staff.
  10. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    making policy defines everything as a political thing
    making laws
    making regulations
    policing things
    all aspects of human behaviour have a clear political ideology behind them in a real world connected form.

    attempting to satisfy the self interest of ideologists who simply wish to push their own political wheel barrow is of no interest to me, or the people seeking pain medication or addiction treatment.

    one could easily argue white collar crime kills people so is equally as detrimental as drug dealing.
    for example .... how many people died from bernie madoff theft of billions from suicide and lack of affording health care to domestic violence from prolonged financial hardship and housing and health insecurity and lack of affordable psychiatric health care ....etc etc...

    the ethics of politically self indulgent ideological dictatorship is not this thread topic.
    however, by all means feel free to state your position & opinion as it directly relates to impacting the average victim as a front line medical process or psychological normalisation for example addiction to shopping and addiction to speed and other amphetamines and foods.

    as you mention Stumpy, the alrmism reality of the serious effects of very powerful drugs is a front line medical reality, equally to all things like recreational pursuit vehicle accidents(people going away on holiday and taking the children then having vehicle accidents to and from and during their holidays[thus an optional activity exposing children to real risk to serious injury & death avoidable easily by not going{moral quagmire}]) injuring and killing children who dont get to choose to take the risk etc etc.
    if you get too far into the alarmist debate around the dangers of the treatment issues then you fail to make any progress.

    i wonder how far away science is from being able to map the brain real time electrical connections and record it for study.
    i imagine the vast number of actions would require a super computer to process & map etc.

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