Poetry Arena

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  1. bbcboy Recovering christian Registered Senior Member

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    QUESTION
    Who was it that wrote the poem that had a sentence made up from the first letter of every line which read...

    The virgin mary fills my hearts desire, but arsehole set my prick on fire

    ?Oscar wilde
     
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  3. Congrats Bartok Fiend Registered Senior Member

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    I don't really know- I don't read much by him. I'm really into Sylvia Plath right now- especially the one poem "Medusa" from Ariel. Heavy symbolism on the amniotic sac/ocean complex...

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    on another note (to bbcboy), I bought 'To Venus and back' and 'Strange Little Girls' and liked them very much- I mean a ton. I get what you mean about the lyrics, although I seem to understand them perfectly. Takes someone strange to know someone strange, I guess.
     
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  5. bbcboy Recovering christian Registered Senior Member

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    Please congrats if you do nothing else buy 'Under the pink' It will blow you away
    Have you been blown that well recently?

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  7. Congrats Bartok Fiend Registered Senior Member

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    Don't you worry, I get my fair share of 'blows'....
     
  8. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    A Believer's Guide To Drifting

    On the one hand, we have this couple -
    So young, so connected,
    So grounded.

    The balloon they released together
    Into the Maryland air
    Held two cards in tow,
    As it found its way
    Between their hands
    And the Balloon maker's place.

    Now balloons don't think for themselves,
    As Einstein and others have shown,
    But I'd like to show some respect
    For this particular helium holder
    With some sort of hidden agenda.
    (I'd even like to think it was smiling.)

    For two hundred miles later,
    On the other hand,
    There's this older couple
    (Plain country folk, as it were)
    So empty, so needful,
    So drifting.

    One day this here couple
    Finds a red balloon
    On the back forty,
    Two cards still dangling.

    One card had the address
    Of a church in Frederick,
    Where a young couple
    Launched a red balloon,
    And then had a picnic.

    The other card
    Told this drifting
    Farmer that somebody
    He had abandoned
    In his own back forty,
    Still loved his sorry hide,
    And wanted to talk
    Over the fence some more.

    This is where the story
    Would have ended for us,
    If the farmer and his
    Suddenly beautiful wife
    Hadn't decided to hang up
    A little red balloon
    On the door of their simple farmhouse,
    And ride into town Sunday.

    (Folks who saw them
    That day
    Thought they looked
    Mighty grounded.)
     
  9. varkas __________ Registered Senior Member

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    pack your bags and leave for good
    burn the bridge behind you
    think of the reason why you left
    and your heart says "i loved her...too".
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    bottle of life and bottle of death
    one will heal you and one stops your breath
    drink one and you'll be on your way
    which one should i choose, for i think i'll stay.
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    You are the gravity
    the world is yours
    i loved you and i think i still do
    but you can't change my course
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    good memories, greatest friends
    bright nights, darkest days
    water flows into water
    "don't leave me", she says





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  10. Congrats Bartok Fiend Registered Senior Member

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    The pigs’ hooves would be cheapened, also,
    When the tools would be shaven
    Glass forms an obsession of creating itself into a hoof-
    I form an obsession of keeping the glass,
    It forms an obsession of wanting me.
    I form an idea that maybe it follows its reflection
    “It is inanimate” Mother chides at me, to me
    I might as well try it; it might as well not have to.
    I might as well try on the pigs’ hooves.
    Ousted, the sallow pigs find sleep in daylight
    They find solace in their hay. It is May
    For the pigs coexist with the flowers
    I would look at them, if I could,
    I would watch, noting maybe a spot, or a blotch, or a nose
    On them
    I might be able to see them well, if I could
    I was far too shadowed,
    I wish I may see the pigs now, I wish,
    To see them, that’s all.
    Just; to glimpse
     
  11. varkas __________ Registered Senior Member

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    we were the hunted, without will
    we were so young and feeble.
    when we made our first kill
    we were just hungry people.
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    what a nice way to start a day
    knowing that you're free
    blocking out the world of hate
    i'll just have a cup of tea.
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    "my last words? why do you care?
    you want me to pray and beg?
    look into my eyes, if you dare"
    said a man, rope around his neck.





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  12. Congrats Bartok Fiend Registered Senior Member

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    Hey Varkas- you have an undeniable thirst for poetry that is evident from your many postings in this thread- However, I would offer you these crits:

    1. Don't just write 4 line stanzas and stop at that. Let your ideas develop further; expand your structure.

    2. Take less time focusing on rhyming- you have some great ideas that could be made into poems, but you don't let them incubate. Try just writing- all of your small ideas will come into a bigger picture and you'll feel like you've not only made great poetry but done some self-excavation.

    3. Try to abandon your metrical rigidity (just a little bit) and delve into the world of free verse. You'll see that your meaning comes across better.

    In all, you write great poetry, but you're doing it in a straightjacket. Poetry imitates life, so give it some more variety.

    Thanksos-
     
  13. varkas __________ Registered Senior Member

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    1. you are absolutely right about that. i'll try..... ;

    2. i'm obsessed with this rhyming thing. can't help it. i've done also that 'just writing' thing. i haven't posted those, 'cause they are too personal (that means they are BS

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    3. but this is what i do. i want to keep my poems like that. i want to see what i can say in 4 lines...

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    (but look number 1...)

    my straightjacket could be (and i'm sure it is) my english. i don't know enough english to express myself like you or others here (which i really admire. i've always wanted to write without limits).

    but thanks for the criticism...
    and keep posting those poems too.


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  14. varkas __________ Registered Senior Member

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    As i woke up in my tomb
    knowing that no one's around
    only one question came to my mind:
    "from where comes that sound?"
    i didn't know then, what i had heard

    the sound came from something i'd not found.
    i had to lie down and rest
    (for they had buried me upright and firmly bound)
    and then i heard that sound again: it came from my chest.
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    i did the same crimes you had done
    and they want me dead, the whole town
    all because my cap does not glisten in the sun,
    beggar said to a man with a crown.
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    love between two creatures
    hides all their earthly features.
    by taking another form, they think
    they can love while you blink.
    when the time between the blinks grows longer,
    can it be measured, whose love is stronger?
     
  15. Congrats Bartok Fiend Registered Senior Member

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    I like it, varkas

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    although in a few spits the meaing stumbles:

    originally posted by varkas
    Now, L1, L2, and L3 are good, but L4 seems to be awkward. Are you the beggar, and if so, what could you be moaning about if you have the oppurtunity to speak with the king? You make it seem like you aren't the beggar, and in a sense give me a feeling the you are trying to give an external outlet to something you feel. Also, the 'man with a crown' metaphor is a bit elementary and almost (sorry

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    ), laughable. You could say ' to the regal gown'- that might better portary the political nature of 'us and them' I am getting from this stanza- alienate the symbols of power....anyway, just some suggestions.
     
  16. Congrats Bartok Fiend Registered Senior Member

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    The Grampians

    When the sun is bright on the upland slopes;
    Here I was, gnawing on
    non-chalant midnight berries, unknowing,
    just talking.
    If you may'aps go further in,
    Cooking 12 avacodoes
    by the white of the streaked cold
    and heating brushed porcelain, like
    a doll's kiss, on the steam.
    And if it were a doll's face,
    of cracked and dissappointed paint,
    it cannot subsist, we are wrong
    To see her strapped, naked, and bare

    for the whole world is a clos'ed window;
    if gone deep, past my gnarled roots,
    It is always past my protection.
     
  17. varkas __________ Registered Senior Member

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    ' to the regal gown' : and now you telling this, after ive humiliated myself in front of the whole world...

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    then again, i would do anything to make these thing rhyme...

    but seriously, i wasn't familiar with that phrase... (excuses....

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    just writing...

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    one more edit: man wearing a crown.... no?

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  18. varkas __________ Registered Senior Member

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    i think it's time to resurrect this thread...

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    do you hear who's laughing at you?
    do you hear it at all?
    you can see them too
    just look up, and -one by one- they'll fall
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    what is life, why are we here?
    is there a deeper meaning to everything
    do we have the answers, are we even near,
    when life itself, says: "don't cut my only wing"
     
  19. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    It needs a little bit more of work

    [Clouds and Stars]
    Rain of stars in a cloudy night;
    sky is there, but you have no sight;
    meteors falling, people dying,
    death is near - sky is clear.

    Where were you that night
    under the moonlit sky,
    I wanted to love and dance with your tears,
    but you were not near.

    What was I to think to find you away;
    were you a shadow or a dream of my passion,
    do you love or hate or simply forget -
    hurricane in my mind.

    If it was a day and I knew your name,
    I'd probably look to see you again,
    till I find my end or forget your smile
    and traces in my heart.

    But all is dark and stars are there-
    their light is filling up my soul;
    you are not here to recall your name,
    I love the stars and forget your tears.

    So I danced with the night
    and with the starlight in my heart.
    I knew - I was god,
    everything could be done.

    No need for humans
    or social problems;
    no need for more laughter,
    There's simply no limits.

    Let them come -
    comets of haterid,
    meteors and wars
    I fear only clouds.


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    ©2002 by Avatar
     
  20. Congrats Bartok Fiend Registered Senior Member

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    LIFE WITH CATHARSIS
    What time seems overgrown
    Dangerous
    Middle of nature, a solid prick
    Dodging into god’s ankle, irks him

    Calamitous markings, upturned
    By unloving skeptics who so
    Broadly accept my unlovely whore
    Accept it, to eat it, absorb it

    And you’ll find me, slick and ready
    On a black and blue rock, demented
    By only you, the cronies come, and follow
    Your cronies come to infatuate

    see me reeling like a stationary
    Angry pink salmon,
    like meat
    With lemon and a garnish, and
    already
    Praying for the oven’s motherly
    warmth
    Praying for the blue fairy to make me real, again
    Will it kill me

    MAY DAY
    Concussed barriers, and depressed
    high water marks
    Hiding the leeches scampering through the rift, by
    My hand, following its own neural trap
    To the center of its delusion

    Who could have said? And who would have known
    Ribbons in the air, being tried and tied to its orb
    A little girl, in the hair, of it
    A little leg, with shaking distance, my leg,
    Presiding madly

    Who would have shaken the apple dapper tree?
    May day is here, with fire and speed
    Upon a carnival, a sword of socks
    From the cupboard come the plates, the finery, to deck upon
    Our crockery, to leave about

    Torrid seascapes, hugging closely like the flint in my side
    My fighter
    Torrid hunger, like the rocks in my heart,
    Reaching out swords like devils, tears so delicate
    Drops of gray
    Murky passion in my core, fitting
    Its foot to prop up its leg

    With the greatest speed, the greatest withal, agile hands, I’ll be along
    Torn to you, bound to the silence of the devil’s will,
    “Ladies in passing, holding ladies in waiting”
    Denizens of delight holding their own.
     
  21. Congrats Bartok Fiend Registered Senior Member

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    varkas- good rhymin'....well, you know....keep it up

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    avatar- very strong message- I'm getting that the 'you' is most likely not a person but a metaphor for an old way of thinking- very clever. However, I get a very strong sense of egotism by the end wth your proclamation of your divinity...but it seems to go with the overall metaphor of meteors and 'divine' events to certain other life events. Godd work

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  22. Cactus Jack Death Knight of Northrend Registered Senior Member

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    The Downward spiral,
    lost, the reflection shallow.
    No one feels this.

    Nothing to believe,
    all that matters has left.
    Absence of faith.

    Taken in by it,
    music envelopes over.
    The pain is gone.

    Old new once again,
    figures past stand tall.
    Signs point elsewhere,
    lost, this place left behind.
    I do not believe myself.


    -Yeah I know I'm not very good, but I had a lot of fun when I wrote this. Probably one of the few school assignments like it that just came naturally. A good release.
     
  23. varkas __________ Registered Senior Member

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    to avoid building a life that counts
    (this line doesn't mean anything, i just wanted the damn thing to rhyme)
    one must be sure it's the 'white horse' he mounts
    maybe that's what it means, 'killing the time'.

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