Science already knows the magic of gravity

[Daecon]

I.e. zero energy.

Isn't that impossible?

Wouldn't zero energy imply that the atoms are at 0 Kelvin, which isn't obtainable because on the quantum level all atoms still move at least a little bit? I don't really know the exact details, just what I think I remember from pop science articles. Correct me if I'm mistaken, Dywyddyr?

 

[theorist-constant12345]

Why would it have any "negative" energy? You seem to be making up negative energy just because.

The box, by the very nature of having mass, would generate a gravitational field in the surrounding space.

It is not really making it up, an atom is positive and negative, by Proton and Electron.

Yes the boxes mass would generate a gravity ( for pretend an electron-proton field) into the surrounding void.

You are understanding well so far.


So now imagine we add another mass to the void equal to the first mass in dimensions and density etc.

We place the second box 1 ft from the first box,

So we now have two boxes 1ft apart both having an equilibrium of energy and an equilibrium of positive and negative ,so neither box is attracted or repelled by each others present, both maintain there 1 ft distance.

So far you can imagine this?

 

[Dywyddyr]

Isn't that impossible?

Yup.
Oh damn!
Have I just showed that TC is talking bullshit again?

 

[Dywyddyr]

We place the second box 1 ft from the first box,
So we now have two boxes 1ft apart both having an equilibrium of energy and an equilibrium of positive and negative ,so neither box is attracted or repelled by each others present, both maintain there 1 ft distance.
So far you can imagine this?

No.
The boxes WILL attract each other.

 

[Daecon]

It is not really making it up, an atom is positive and negative, by Proton and Electron.

That's just electrical charge. Negative electrical charge doesn't mean negative energy, as far as I'm aware. It's more like "north" and "south".

 

[theorist-constant12345]

That's just electrical charge. Negative electrical charge doesn't mean negative energy, as far as I'm aware. It's more like "north" and "south".

I did put, I know negative energy is not a good term, but for pretend just call it that is easier , and north and south tends to relate to magnetism so I avoided that.

So you can imagine the two boxes 1 ft apart not moving in an equilibrium?

 

[theorist-constant12345]

No.
The boxes WILL attract each other.

No, they will not, not yet anyway, my boxes are equal dimensions in a void with an equilibrium of force of positive and negative, they push the same has they repel and hold a 1 ft distance apart.

( my idea does not involve different mass metal balls on a torsion wire, my name is not Cavendish that are already under the force of gravity).

 

[Dywyddyr]

So you can imagine the two boxes 1 ft apart not moving in an equilibrium?

What force is holding them apart?

No, they will not, not yet anyway

Yes they will.
Mutual gravitational attraction will take place.

my boxes are equal dimensions in a void with an equilibrium of force of positive and negative, they push the same has they repel and hold a 1 ft distance apart.

Bollocks.
What pushes?

 

[theorist-constant12345]

What force is holding them apart?

+ v +

- v -

Maybe just + v +

 

[Dywyddyr]

+ v +
- v -
Maybe just + v +

Whatever that's meant to mean.
This is yet another indication that you have no clue as to what you're talking about.

 

[theorist-constant12345]

What force is holding them apart?


Yes they will.
Mutual gravitational attraction will take place.


Bollocks.
What pushes?

The + and negative.


''Mutual gravitational attraction will take place.''

Did you not the read the part pretend?

Wait Dy , we are talking mechanism . I have not shown you yet.

 

[theorist-constant12345]

Whatever that's meant to mean.
This is yet another indication that you have no clue as to what you're talking about.

Your trolling dude, opposite polarities attract, the same repels, stop spoiling my chat with Deacon.

 

[Daecon]

So you're giving them magnetic repulsion that is exactly equal to the gravitational attraction between the two boxes?

The only way for that to work would be if both boxes had a non-zero value for the same polarity of magnetic charge.

 

[Dywyddyr]

Your trolling dude

No I'm not.
But I suppose this is your best response given that you don't know enough science to reply to my points.

opposite polarities attract, the same repels

Nothing to do with gravity.
And, as Daecon has pointed out polarity is related CHARGE not "energy".
(Plus, of course, you have failed entirely to support your claims of the existence of "negative energy" or that it exists in matter).

 

[Dywyddyr]

The + and negative.

Of what?

Did you not the read the part pretend?
Wait Dy , we are talking mechanism . I have not shown you yet.

Right, you're going explain gravity by pretending it doesn't exist?

 

[theorist-constant12345]

So you're giving them magnetic repulsion that is exactly equal to the gravitational attraction between the two boxes?

The only way for that to work would be if both boxes had a non-zero value for the same polarity of magnetic charge.

Not magnetic, an electron -proton thing, all negatives are attracted to positives, negatives are not attracted to negatives,

A equilibrium at this stage.

2 boxes , 1 ft apart held in stationary orbit by an equal of attract to the equal of plus v plus repel.

So far?

 

[theorist-constant12345]

No I'm not.
But I suppose this is your best response given that you don't know enough science to reply to my points.


Nothing to do with gravity.
And, as Daecon has pointed out polarity is related CHARGE not "energy".
(Plus, of course, you have failed entirely to support your claims of the existence of "negative energy" or that it exists in matter).

We have not got to the gravity bit yet.

Thats all mate.

 

[Dywyddyr]

Not magnetic, an electron -proton thing, all negatives are attracted to positives, negatives are not attracted to negative

One more time: that's CHARGE.

2 boxes , 1 ft apart held in stationary orbit by an equal of attract to the equal of plus v plus repel.

Doesn't happen.
There is NO "equal of attract to the equal of plus v plus repel" - both boxes would, under YOUR "logic" have ZERO charge.

We have not got to the gravity bit yet.

Because you're ignoring it.

 

[theorist-constant12345]

One more time: that's CHARGE.


Doesn't happen.
There is NO "equal of attract to the equal of plus v plus repel" - both boxes would, under YOUR "logic" have ZERO charge.


Because you're ignoring it.

No you are bringing something that is the overall process into something that is mechanism. We have not offset the equilibrium yet to show gravity, once I charge either of the boxes the one with less positive energy will attract to the one with the greater energy. Has seen in the Cavendish experiment,

 

[Daecon]

If the boxes have "zero energy" then gravity would bring both of the boxes together.

The only way for the boxes not to be attracted to each other by gravity would be if both boxes DIDN'T have zero energy, and in fact had an amount of charge (more than zero) of the same polarity in order to repel each other to cancel out the gravitational attraction.