All right. Then I am free to "assume" that Yazata and MR like to eat kittens. We are free to make whatever claims we want about other members think and what motivates them. There is no accountability or need to back up outlandish claims that serve only to poison the well against our opponents. So I claim - without knowing them, and without telepathic abilities to know how they think - that my opponents like to eat kittens. See how that works? That is the sole reason this entire thread exists. And more signiifcantly, why all discussion about the thought processes and motives of members do not belong in the UAPs thread, but belong here in the Conspiracies forum instead. Frankly, we're all a bit sick of this dishonesty. Which is why constructive discussion has broken down. Yazata and his ilk have given up having any good faith discussion and simply repeat this lie over and over again, in a manner disgustingly similar to disgraced former president Trump's cries about the stolen election.