Ruining things is man's specialty.
You're still dead, by the way.
You're still dead, by the way.
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Starting Civilization From Scratch
- Thread starter lixluke
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Not in reality. Instead of 100 000 people you should have made it 4 or 5 pussies. Then, maybe, but still probably not.In a society that has never had an incident of human on human violence, there is chance for a clean slate.
Are you going to kill me personally? If not you're dictating others again.You will ruin your chances of survival when you attempt to commit human on human violence for no reason.
Chances are (highly likely) people will applaud my killing of you.
Indeed, I'm not only doing it to be rid of you, it's a tactic to endear myself to others.
Someone already mentioned it, but you really do need to read/watch "lord of the flies".
You are piggy.
At best ralph, and he was screwed before the army guys showed up.
I never seen it.
Either way, WRONG.
FACT: In a society that has never had an incident of human on human violence, there is chance for a clean slate.
You wish to cause human on human violence for no reason in New Colony which has never been exposed to human on human violence.
Either way, WRONG.
FACT: In a society that has never had an incident of human on human violence, there is chance for a clean slate.
You wish to cause human on human violence for no reason in New Colony which has never been exposed to human on human violence.
Violence is like death. You can try to put it off, but at some point you'll be forced into it.
One demographic you simply cannot stop from fighting is children. So we're already screwed. Risk violence, or go extinct. (Not to mention all the animal rights violations we'll be forced to perpetrate in order to eat!)
One demographic you simply cannot stop from fighting is children. So we're already screwed. Risk violence, or go extinct. (Not to mention all the animal rights violations we'll be forced to perpetrate in order to eat!)
Isn't creating a society that functions on specific pre-set rules dictating society?No it will not. I am speaking for myself. It is you who try to dictate the society.
Are you crazy? In a society where there are no institutions powers, violence is the first thing that is a necessity.In a society that has never had an incident of human on human violence, there is chance for a clean slate.
Wrong. Not if we put a stop to human on human violence.Violence is like death. You can try to put it off, but at some point you'll be forced into it.
1. No dictating to a society is what you are doing. Telling people how they will orwill not respond to the ideas presented.Isn't creating a society that functions on specific pre-set rules dictating society?
Are you crazy? In a society where there are no institutions powers, violence is the first thing that is a necessity.
2. Violence is the first thing that is NOT necessary.
Wrong. Not if we put a stop to human on human violence.
With what? Violence? Make them stop. Try it. I dare you.
Get real I dare you to go get a brain. The objective is to put a stop on human on human violence.
The fact that you complain about something good goes to show what a brainwashed slave you are.
Anybody that wants to perpetuate violence is a brainwashed slave.
Slaves are programmed to keep shackles on their own wrists. Offers of freedom mean they put a fight against you in order to perpetuate their own slavery. They will go to any extent to keep their shackles on.
Slaves are conditioned to view freedom as slavery and slavery as freedom.
The fact that you complain about something good goes to show what a brainwashed slave you are.
Anybody that wants to perpetuate violence is a brainwashed slave.
Slaves are programmed to keep shackles on their own wrists. Offers of freedom mean they put a fight against you in order to perpetuate their own slavery. They will go to any extent to keep their shackles on.
Slaves are conditioned to view freedom as slavery and slavery as freedom.
I'm not telling peope how they'll do anything, but I can guess pretty accurately. Anyway, any government that can be established will dictate society.1. No dictating to a society is what you are doing. Telling people how they will orwill not respond to the ideas presented.
How would you decide who's ideas are the best?2. Violence is the first thing that is NOT necessary.
I created plans that I began describing in this thread.
Not a single person adressed the plans or provided their own plans.
Most of the posts in this thread by others either involved killing people or some other form of nonsense.
There are 100,000 people to accommodate, and plans to accomodate them.
If you do not like the plans, you can state what you do not like about them. The objective is to accommodate everybody peacefully.
Not a single person adressed the plans or provided their own plans.
Most of the posts in this thread by others either involved killing people or some other form of nonsense.
There are 100,000 people to accommodate, and plans to accomodate them.
If you do not like the plans, you can state what you do not like about them. The objective is to accommodate everybody peacefully.
Get real I dare you to go get a brain. The objective is to put a stop on human on human violence.
The fact that you complain about something good goes to show what a brainwashed slave you are.
Anybody that wants to perpetuate violence is a brainwashed slave.
Oh well. I'm a brainwashed slave, and among your hundred thousand there are literally hundreds more like me. We'll kill and mutilate your innocent Nietzschean pacifist übermenchen out of sheer spite.
It's a good question, how will you stop people from being violent?
The chance of no one out of 100 000 people ever getting violent is a big fat zero%. Do you have any understanding of people whatsoever?
Even if everyone wanted to be peaceful (which wouldn't be the case with 100 000 people, but hypothetically) they couldn't help themselves.
They need to live lives and interact with one another.
In reality 100k people in a space too small to adequately provide for them all means there will be excessively heightened savage violence all the time. That's the natural way of things, and no number of hissy fits from a big pussy demanding people abide by his program and sit in their cubicles will curb the violence. It will instead make the big pussy an obvious target. Chances are I couldn't get in soon enough to be the one to kill you, and that bothers me. That's a blow to my plan.
The chance of no one out of 100 000 people ever getting violent is a big fat zero%. Do you have any understanding of people whatsoever?
Even if everyone wanted to be peaceful (which wouldn't be the case with 100 000 people, but hypothetically) they couldn't help themselves.
They need to live lives and interact with one another.
In reality 100k people in a space too small to adequately provide for them all means there will be excessively heightened savage violence all the time. That's the natural way of things, and no number of hissy fits from a big pussy demanding people abide by his program and sit in their cubicles will curb the violence. It will instead make the big pussy an obvious target. Chances are I couldn't get in soon enough to be the one to kill you, and that bothers me. That's a blow to my plan.
A taste of reality for you then.I created plans that I began describing in this thread.
Not a single person adressed the plans or provided their own plans.
Most of the posts in this thread by others either involved killing people or some other form of nonsense.
People aren't going to behave how you'd like them to, and your plan in no way compensated for this inevitability.
Big mistake. Now you're dead. Nice going genius. Nice plans, haha, dead moron.
Fraggle Rocker
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But you don't have the time. You've got to find food before you starve. If a hundred thousand people start eating and walking, they will clear the forest of nuts and berries faster than they can walk. By the third day they will have walked 60 miles and completely stripped a circle 120 miles in diameter of everything edible. There isn't enough wild food in an area that size to sustain anywhere near 100,000 people, so most of them will be starving.Everything is in walking distance if you have the time. Last one to Hawaii is a rotten egg!
With the best Stone Age weaponry, very well-honed hunting skills, and a region teeming with game, I would estimate that 100,000 people might be able to subsist in an area roughly the size of Texas... just long enough to develop an agricultural economy before all the game animals become extinct. But if they all start out in one place they will not be able to walk far enough fast enough to spread out to where all the food is.
Like I say, you'd have to start out with no more than about twenty people so they can subsist on wild plant food. Then you have no problem with organization. Your only problem is that they won't have enough knowledge and skills in the whole group to recreate the technology of the Neolithic Era, much less civilization.
If you choose maybe a few hundred people carefully for health and attitude and train them for a couple of years in survival techniques plus Stone Age tool-making before you set them down, then they might have a chance to create an old-fashioned village lifestyle for their grandchildren's generation.
It is obvious that you do not.Do you have any understanding of people whatsoever?
You cannot dictate people's choices either, so do not attempt any brainwashed statistics about what people will or will not do.
We have already discussed that this is irrelevant. You do not decide what people will or will not do.
The fact that you do shows you have no understanding of people.
The fact that you wish to perpetuate violence shows that you are a brainwashed slave.
Slaves are programmed to keep shackles on their own wrists. Offers of freedom mean they put a fight against you in order to perpetuate their own slavery. They will go to any extent to keep their shackles on.
Slaves are conditioned to view freedom as slavery and slavery as freedom.
The objective is for New Colony to be free from violence. Either provide solutions on how you think this can be accomplished, or go get a life. Unless you are providing solutions on how we can have a good track record for no human on human violence, there is nothing for you to input. Anything claiming that this is not possible is not solution oriented input. It is slave minded worship of shackles, and the belief that a society free from violence is bad. Shackles are good. The removal of shackles is bad. So brainwashed slaves do whatever they can to keep their shackles.
You either have input on positive ways to prevent violence if you really are the expert on humans that you claim to be or you are incapable of such intelligence.
A taste of reality for you.A taste of reality for you then.
People aren't going to behave how you'd like them to, and your plan in no way compensated for this inevitability.
STOP DICTATING WHAT PEOPLE WILL AND WILL NOT DO.
Any such stupidity will be ignored as irrelevant. It is not your decision, it is the decision of the individual. Either provide your plans or do not. Notice how the dumbest people in this thread focus totally on speculation what other people will do instead of what they will do. This does not only go for this thread. This is how stupid people in real life think. Try focusing 100% on what YOU and you alone will do. Don't provide any crap about what others will do.
This thread is not about dictating what people will or will not do. It is about describing what YOU will do. Try rereading the first post. Stop posting here if you continue trying to tell me what other people will or will not do. The question is about what you will or will not do. Not everybody else. Describe what you want to do. Describe what you want to tell the people. Describe how you will handle this situation. DO NOT PROJECT YOUR PERSONAL IDEAS AND ACTIONS ON OTHERS.
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What if your ideals aren't of a peaceful nature? Then accommedating everyone peacefully may not be in your criteria. A good policy would be to create multiple different kinds of society that are fit to ALL the different types of people, and kept out of poverty by a central government with no legal obligation except to maintain trade and prevent the societies from imposing their will on the other societies, and to orginize armies in the event that part of the population will become resource hungy in the future. Rather than prison, those who disobey the rules of local society could simply be transfered to another society, that better fits their living style.
This seems more like a better solution than telling everybody to leave and go fend for themselves if they are not happy with the majority situation.What if your ideals aren't of a peaceful nature? Then accommedating everyone peacefully may not be in your criteria. A good policy would be to create multiple different kinds of society that are fit to ALL the different types of people, and kept out of poverty by a central government with no legal obligation except to maintain trade and prevent the societies from imposing their will on the other societies, and to orginize armies in the event that part of the population will become resource hungy in the future. Rather than prison, those who disobey the rules of local society could simply be transfered to another society, that better fits their living style.
Any person that leaves New Colony can potentially establish an evil society to threaten New Colony. Although I would contend that we can handle them if that were the case.
The solution was to create 5 divisions of 20,000 each. But they would still be under the same structure as one another. Then each division would be divided into 5 tribes of 4,000. This means that there will be 5 division leaders in charge of 5 tribe leaders each.
The land will then be distributed accordingly to each tribe. 25 tribes in total means 25 areas. Each structured in according to the same format. But as each tribe leader meets, we can learn from eachother.