the chemtrail thread

gamelord

gamelord

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this video says chemtrails are real:

this video says chemtrails are fake:

Both are compelling videos. However, the man who says chemtrails are fake, cannot explain 4 things:
1. How is there a camera footage of the cockpit of a plane, which has a Chemtrails On Off Display?
2. Claims chemtrails are either fuel dumping or ice of engines. He claims fuel dumps are used during emergency landings. However, it seems far-fetched to believe that all of these videos were filmed during emergency landings.
3. Does not offer explanation for tictactoe patterns, offers no explanation for increased aluminum levels in environment (65x normal amount), offers no explanation for strange biological organisms observed in chemtrail areas.
4. Does not offer explanation for Paris Accord Coincidence (
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Back in the 60s we used to watch the contrails of the B-52s flying over, headed for Russia. Who else would be flying due north over Canada?
 
gamelord said:
this video says chemtrails are real:


this video says chemtrails are fake:


Both are compelling videos. However, the man who says chemtrails are fake, cannot explain 4 things:
1. How is there a camera footage of the cockpit of a plane, which has a Chemtrails On Off Display?
2. Claims chemtrails are either fuel dumping or ice of engines. He claims fuel dumps are used during emergency landings. However, it seems far-fetched to believe that all of these videos were filmed during emergency landings.
3. Does not offer explanation for tictactoe patterns, offers no explanation for increased aluminum levels in environment (65x normal amount), offers no explanation for strange biological organisms observed in chemtrail areas.
4. Does not offer explanation for Paris Accord Coincidence
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You have to be some kind of halfwit to take this nonsense seriously. Condensation trails are an obvious result of basic chemistry. You burn a hydrocarbon, which contains hydrogen (the clue being in "hydro", get it?) and this burns to form water (H2O, right?). It is cold up there, about -50C, so the water vapour in the exhaust condenses and turns to ice. And that is what you see in condensation trails, known as contrails, not chemtrails.

There is no credible evidence at all that anything else is going on. If you think there is, you need a tinfoil hat and a straitjacket.

There, that should bring Magical Realist out of the woodwork. :D
 
exchemist said:
You have to be some kind of halfwit to take this nonsense seriously. Condensation trails are an obvious result of basic chemistry. You burn a hydrocarbon, which contains hydrogen (the clue being in "hydro", get it?) and this burns to form water (H2O, right?). It is cold up there, about -50C, so the water vapour in the exhaust condenses and turns to ice. And that is what you see in condensation trails, known as contrails, not chemtrails.

There is no credible evidence at all that anything else is going on. If you think there is, you need a tinfoil hat and a straitjacket.
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If you would have watched both videos, you would see that the second video AGREES with you and says it is just contrails. (First video is trying to prove chemtrails, second is trying to disprove chemtrails.)

But I posted earlier, that the second video does not fully refute the claims of the first video. The first video claims toxic chemicals have reached 65x EPA safety levels in areas of suspected heavy chemtrails. And that strange biological organisms have been found.

Also, what better platform to dump chemicals unsuspecting. People will just assume the chemicals are contrails, and you can hide it easily.
 
gamelord said:
If you would have watched both videos, you would see that the second video AGREES with you and says it is just contrails. (First video is trying to prove chemtrails, second is trying to disprove chemtrails.)

But I posted earlier, that the second video does not fully refute the claims of the first video. The first video claims toxic chemicals have reached 65x EPA safety levels in areas of suspected heavy chemtrails. And that strange biological organisms have been found.

Also, what better platform to dump chemicals unsuspecting. People will just assume the chemicals are contrails, and you can hide it easily.
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I don't watch videos from YouTube. Life is too short to waste goofily watching crap. If you've watched them you should be able to summarise their arguments.

What evidence do they have that "toxic chemicals" have "reached 65x EPA safety levels?
What toxic chemicals are these?
Where have they been found?
By whom has the analysis been done?
Lastly, what motive would any organisation have for doing this? and
What evidence is there of any such motivation?
 
exchemist said:
I don't watch videos from YouTube. Life is too short to waste goofily watching crap. If you've watched them you should be able to summarise their arguments.

What evidence do they have that "toxic chemicals" have "reached 65x EPA safety levels?
What toxic chemicals are these?
Where have they been found?
By whom has the analysis been done?
Lastly, what motive would any organisation have for doing this? and
What evidence is there of any such motivation?
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The motive I suppose, would be to make a weak and docile population, as they are doing now.

What further motives get more nefarious and dark after that.
 
gamelord said:
The motive I suppose, would be to make a weak and docile population, as they are doing now.

What further motives get more nefarious and dark after that.
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How and why? What agent would produce a "weak and docile" population, what evidence is there that the US population is any more weak and docile than others and why would a government - or the Illuminati, or the Lizard People or whoever - want a weak and docile population?

And what about answering the other questions?
 
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exchemist said:
How and why? What agent would produce a "weak and docile" population, what evidence is there that the US population is any more weak and docile than others and why would a government - or the Illuminati, or the Lizard People of whoever - want a weak and docile population?

And what about answering the other questions?
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I think it would be political conspiracy nutcases.

Watch this for a laugh:
(22 minutes)
 
exchemist said:
How and why? What agent would produce a "weak and docile" population, what evidence is there that the US population is any more weak and docile than others
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Ipod generation, facebook generation, people who are too trusting of government and want a police state and to ban guns.

The testosterone levels of First-world countries have been on steady and consistent decline in the past 40 years, and it is old news that xenoestrogens are in water.

Now my views personally, I am against xenoestrogen because it is a toxic form of estrogen. However, on my ideal planet, would be made up of mostly women and girly men. They are non-threatening and also, when the world is mostly women, the males of the planet become more high value. If the world was mostly women, no male would have a tough time finding romance.

and why would a government - or the Illuminati, or the Lizard People or whoever - want a weak and docile population?
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Power and control.

It could be also more nefarious, similar to Hitler, or could be some weird occult thing.
 
Here's a problem for the whole Chemtrail thing... well, two, actually:

1) Dispersion. A plane at, say, 10,000 feet that releases an aerosolized agent into the atmosphere would see that aerosol disperse over a fucking massive area... which also means it would be massively diluted.

2) Wind. A plane, again, at 10,000 feet, will not be dropping said aerosol on whatever is below it... but most likely on something 50 to 100 miles in some random direction.

Honestly, as far as efficacy goes... Chemtrails are probably one of the worst possible methods of delivering an agent to a target location.
 
Kittamaru said:
Here's a problem for the whole Chemtrail thing... well, two, actually:

1) Dispersion. A plane at, say, 10,000 feet that releases an aerosolized agent into the atmosphere would see that aerosol disperse over a fucking massive area... which also means it would be massively diluted.

2) Wind. A plane, again, at 10,000 feet, will not be dropping said aerosol on whatever is below it... but most likely on something 50 to 100 miles in some random direction.

Honestly, as far as efficacy goes... Chemtrails are probably one of the worst possible methods of delivering an agent to a target location.
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not really since what ever is sprayed gets into the lungs and soil

and hence the food we eat

then our genetics
 
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river said:
not really since what ever is sprayed gets into the lungs and soil

and hence the food we eat

then our genetics
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Thank you for demonstrating that you have zero clue as to what I had said, or why it was relevant.

River, do yourself a favor and quit while you are behind, please? You're just making yourself look foolish.
 
sideshowbob said:
There you go. If the government wanted to drug/poison the people, tampering with the water supply would be simpler.
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Well, they want to target the people who use water filters also, so they would poison the air.

To answer Kittamaru's question, flying at lower altitudes would be more ideal, but simply cannot fly lower due to airline routes and regulations.
 
gamelord said:
Well, they want to target the people who use water filters also, so they would poison the air.

To answer Kittamaru's question, flying at lower altitudes would be more ideal, but simply cannot fly lower due to airline routes and regulations.
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Trust me - if such a thing were possible / feasible, crop-dusters would be flying much larger aircraft, with much larger tanks, much higher up, and covering far great areas at once; after all, it'd simply be good business sense.
 
Kittamaru said:
Trust me - if such a thing were possible / feasible, crop-dusters would be flying much larger aircraft, with much larger tanks, much higher up, and covering far great areas at once; after all, it'd simply be good business sense.
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technically, Re crop dusting, i very much doubt it as that would go against the ability to increase the price per person.

though need i say i agree with your assertion of basic physics lol

what is possible is modelling geo-forming to analaise spots for radiation absorbtion etc.
being able to track a cloud of some type of material may be useful to better understand how radiation travels through the atmosphere.

"cloud-formation" is also a big ticket item.
being able to create clouds that then interact by increasing rain or condensation and blocking or reducing specific bands of radiation may be quite benificial.

though given the massive wild fires in the usa, i think covering evertything in a fine aluminium dust might be considered a deliberate act of terrorism.
 
There is only a certain amount of blury belt buckle footage and shaky views looking out a moving vehicle at passing tree tops that i can stand before i start to question the science.
 
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