The Purpose of Life

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  1. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    Applied purpose chosen by individuals individually according to each individuals unique qualities and as they relate to thier surroundings is more understandable than applied purpose chosen by other's, or by another entity unlike ourselves.

    To answer your question directly, that's life and always had been. The more isolated studies may be increasing, but the general study of human behavior has been an ongoing reality since we became curious about the meaning of life and life purpose.
     
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  3. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Giving, as a person, a purpose for the individual life said person is living is totally different to what is / was implied

    What is / was implied is / was the non sentinel activities at cell level having a purpose

    Obviously no grand plan end game goal is in view at this level. Life at this level is repeated random occurrences each of which changes said goal eliminating any chance of a definitive goal being obtained

    No chance of definitive goal = no purpose

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  5. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    The no purpose cynic awakens to life having no purpose after allowing the cynic overcome the wonderment of life and individualism. Go figure. Suit yourself. I'll continue as I have, the curious scientist amazed by newly found discoveries yet to be awakened to.

    I just found a rock that looks like a potato. It isn't, but It may look cool with a nice polish. Mother nature created coolness with a human spit shine honor ... So to speak.
     
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  7. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    Will this century come to be known as the age of cynicism? I wonder ...
     
  8. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    OK

    Again it appears you are giving, as a individual YOUR life a purpose

    You do not appear to understand life just as life has no purpose

    If you can articulate a / the purpose of life, JUST AS LIFE - not as a life form giving itself a purpose I would be interested in reading about such purpose

    Even religion has not cracked that

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  9. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not sure what the issue is. Giving ourselves purpose as opposed to life having a purpose inherently. It would seem the point is in the individual as inherited by each individual uniquely instead of a purpose being applied as a whole, unless of course that's the purpose - to find out own. Even then, I don't understand your stated difference between the principle itself. If you choose no meaning, then I'm sure you'll likely get what you choose. If instinctual, then it's in that instinct that a place and purpose is found.
     
  10. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I would contend a bumble bee is unable to give itself purpose so the default position for a bumble bee is my life has no meaning

    Same would apply to all non sentient life forms. Humans can give purpose to non sentient life forms

    Up steps sentient human. To the bee - your purpose is to pollinate flowers

    ThazzarBaal purpose seems to be to be in wonderment of life and individuals

    Wonder what the end of being in wonderment of life and individuals looks like

    Do you agree any purpose (ie wonderment of life) will wind up as boredom?

    If you wish to gain something from your wonderment do you think you need utilise said wonderment?

    It's 4 am here, I have lost my train of thought and the nurse is telling me to sleep

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  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Daniel Dennett's "Intentional stance" perspective.
     
  12. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    Your assessment of my perceived purpose is far removed from the truth of what I view my purpose to be, but I enjoy feeling this type of childlike wonderment. It's enjoyable to put it plainly.

    My car had a purpose. My shower had a purpose. My lawn mower had a purpose. A bees purpose, according to you, it to pollinate. I wouldn't know. I'm not a bee.
     
  13. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

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    Purpose of life ?

    Honestly,I dont know

    Meaning of life is whole nother story worth pursuing.
     
  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    The purpose of life is "solving problems" via a stochastic evolutionary process that employs "natural selection" of those abilities that allow the organism to develop and use solutions to cope with natural environmental problems.

    Insects invented flight long before birds and it is what allowed them to survive several extinction events.
    https://www.britannica.com/science/flight-animal-locomotion

    How long did it take humans to copy physics employed by insects and birds to achieve flight by artificial means?
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    A little more than a century years after they figured out how to do it via a method nature never discovered.
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    You mean some 325 million years after the insect learned powered flight?

    Moreover, "rising thermals" have been used by spiders for some 400 million years.

    Incidentally, spiders also invented scuba diving and the diving bell.

    Flying and gliding animals
    Externally powered[edit]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_and_gliding_animals
     
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  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Humans really never invented anything, we "discovered" and "learned" things about the natural mechanics (Hamiltonians) of the world. Natura Artis Magistra
     
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  18. O. W. Grant Registered Senior Member

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  19. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Dipolar attraction - hunger

    Dipole-Dipole Forces

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    https://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/liquids/dipdip.html#

    p.s. That ought to trigger an association with neural networking.
     
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  20. O. W. Grant Registered Senior Member

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    Hi,

    We need/build machines for work. And now we need/build them for thinking (also work).

    Creating conscious machine is creating life.
    And life has to be confined.

    It is being done through Mushroom treatment, not through laws of robotics.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mushroom treatment

    https://wordhistories.net/2020/01/01/mushroom-dark-fed-bullshit/

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    https://ia802800.us.archive.org/23/items/LemStanislawMemoirsOfASpaceTraveller/[Lem_Stanislaw]_Memoirs of a space traveller.pdf

    page 13, Further Reminiscences of Ijon Tichy

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    "... The computer designed a more powerful computer, Earth, to find the question to which 42 is the answer. Earth had nearly completed its calculations when the Vogons destroyed it. ..."

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Hitchhikers-Guide-to-the-Galaxy-novel-by-Adams

    the 4th paragraph

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    The Purpose of Life:

    - from "inside" is to eat (to eat is to live);

    - from "outside" is to work (the machine is being fed, to live is to work).
     
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  21. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    This can only be answered subjectively, so I'll give you my answer.

    I've had three out of body experiences, this was my first back in 2001.

    My experience:

    I was down the South coast of England, driving at night. With no warning or reason I can think of, I was 200 ft above my car watching myself drive. I felt like I still had human shape, but I was weightless, my mind was crystal clear, very little emotion and it seemed I was all knowing. I was surrounded by darkness. A thought came to mind, do I want to stay or go, I thought of one thing I hadn't done that I wanted to do, with the speed of thought after I had made the choice I was driving as if nothing happened. Since then I have studied NDE, and the only thing I have in common with any of them is being outside the body looking down, I was perfectly healthy, no drink/drugs/meds.

    This eventually led me to conclude that we are here to experience this existence, whether or not you learn anything is anyone's guess, but this is why we are here. 100% I am on this.

    Hope you are still around and healthy.
     
  22. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    If somebody else told you they experienced this, would it convince you that what they say they experienced was real?

    Do you expect it to convince us?
     
  23. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    It depends who it is, and also it has to align with my knowledge. I would look at it objectively using my knowledge as a guide, or evidence if you will.

    No, I'm just planting seeds.
     

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