The Year The Sun Turned Black

Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by Write4U, Jan 7, 2024.

  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I am watching this fascinating tale and must recommend it. This is good stuff...

     
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  3. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Appropriately, all I get is a black screen with a message saying "This video is not available in your country."

    Since no clue is offered as to the subject of this thread, I am none the wiser.
     
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  5. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Look up year 536 (also known as "the worst year to be alive")
    and: It seemed to last a few years---of famine and death
     
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  8. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Right so there is evidence of a volcanic winter in 536 and for perhaps a couple of years afterwards. What is the discussion topic?
     
  9. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    TRANSCRIPT: "Krakatoa is now the most likely culprit. The volcano that did go up in 535 A.D would have produced a dust cloud that enveloped the world. It would have been one of the most dangerous spectacles ever seen. A 30-mile high column of ash and dust brought global climatic catastrophe. Darkness drought frost and famine and ultimately chaos and war. It was a natural catastrophe that would change the course of human history."​

    So one opener to a discussion stems from the question: "Why is this in Biology & Genetics, rather than Earth Science (or even History)"?

    Would a clarification for that result in the offshoot of another query? Future developments will tell.
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  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Historical information of possible interest? How many people know the real story and full scope of this minor "extinction" event?

    It is also a cautionary tale.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_winter_of_536
     
  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Why did you post this in Biology and Genetics, Write4U?

    I have moved it to Earth Science which I'm guessing might be a better fit. I didn't watch the video since you gave no information about it.
     
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  12. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    It was not an extinction event.
     
  13. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Who is making this claim? The Wiki article associates the claim it was Krakatoa with somebody called David Keys, but says he had to shift the date of contemporary documents by over a century to make it fit, and that drilling in the Sunda Strait rules out an eruption at the time in question. So it seems to be balls.
     
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  14. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    It seems that there were a series of major volcanic eruptions which exacerbated the suffering.
    One in 35-36, then another a couple years later(?) later, then another in '41(?) then another in'47(?).
    This could happen again?
    If so, then; can we survive on current food stores?
    Could it lead to war?
     
  15. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    Granting that this video is not much older than the date of its YouTube release, I can't find anything new published in 2022 or 2023 that has countered the conclusion that it was not caused by Krakatoa.

    I haven't had free time to watch the whole 99-minute video any more than probably anyone else has (apart from maybe Write4U), but judging from that area of the transcript, it really does seem to be advocating Keys' overall claims (which includes that the event ended ancient civilization and started the medieval era).

    So while a climatic disturbance of some kind (volcanic in origin or otherwise) seems vouched by the majority to have occurred circa that period of the past, this video's choice of the culprit and its historical theories doesn't seem to be a blue-ribbon account of it.

    Daniel Keys: critical response
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Keys#Critical_response
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  16. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I read that. He's an archaeologist and has done some good work. But he is not a volcanologist or geologist. He should let those specialists advise him on what mountain it could have been, while he focuses on the effects on human history - which could have been dramatic and important.
     

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