To strengthen someone's opinion, simply say it's based on morality

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  1. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    Some people answer to reason, others don't.
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  3. Crcata Registered Senior Member

    And even those who think they answer only to reason, are lying to themselves. Even they have biases, developed from values.

    Granted, some are worse than others.
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  5. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    Not many people think they answer only to reason.

    Nobody who does answer to reason would make that claim, for example.
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member


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  8. Retribution Banned Banned

    Don't you?
    I suppose, having asked that, I haven't seen terribly much to indicate where you actually stand on the subject.
    A few hints here and there, perhaps. I'd have to do more reading.

    In the spirit of your third sentence, perhaps you'd care to enlighten me as to your thoughts on what you are if you aren't that guy.

    For myself, I resemble Benjamin the Donkey more and more, as time goes on.
    I wonder what Benjamin's opinion of himself might have been, were he real.
  9. Retribution Banned Banned

    I'm reminded of the "foot massage" scene in Pulp fiction.
    You know, the one where Vincent manipulates Jules into the realisation that he was completely wrong about the implications of giving a woman a foot massage after claiming it meant nothing.
    The culmination of that scene was Jules saying "fuck you" and Vincent merely smiling. Funny, huh.
    This was an American movie, and an extremely popular one. But it does appear that it's only funny in a movie, and not in real life. Around some parts, anyway. But that scene remaining in the memory of everyone who has seen and enjoyed that movie is evidence that life isn't as simple and boringly dry as Jules merely saying "Yes, Vincent, you're quite correct, good argument, point well made".
    Bloody boring movie that would have made, huh.

    Point being, of course, that this kind of humour does exist, it is quite common, and it's readily apparent that the vast majority of responses to me were... well, to me. Not to the topic, or that I'd attempted to open discussion on it.
    So who among you actually said anything at all about
    "But may I ask, through appropriately gritted teeth: Do you consider this to be a "good" thing?
    Moreover... are you interested in rising above it? With all due consideration as to the phrasing of that question, its implications upon pure science, and with all due regard to the observation that scientific method applies to more than just science?"

    Not. One.
    Most of it was responses to me, in the form of taking the moral high ground with respect to a certain poster, rather than thinking about what I'd actually said.

    This site is not merely a collection of threads. It's a spider's web; many threads ostensibly separate from one another actually form parts of a greater whole. So when someone like this Dave character come out and say "with apropos to nothing" I do have a bit of a chuckle. You can pretend that, but that don't make it so.
    Simply put, if you can't see the tapestry for the threads, it's you who is actually reducing it to merely those threads.

    Ain't no one goin' to no art gallery to see threads. At least, not enough to make that gallery viable. in the long term.

    When Iceaura posts something like "Which is all echoes from the walls of a garbage can with few occupants - possibly only one, two at the most. No need to open and investigate - the truck is coming, and it's just a wingnut radio feed anyway." it becomes obvious that while attacking a post based on it's moral grounding is not considered kosher, defending it and creating what is essentially chaff from that very same viewpoint is not only acceptable, it's become officially sanctioned - with respect to many strands of this particular spider web (not a response to Iceaura in particular, in this instance, in spite of the quote).

    But, hell. I'm obviously here just to just attack your moral groundings with particular reference to administration methods (partly), and I can be an abrasive son of a bitch anyway, and therefore, given a scientific study which says it is quite normal for you to do so, simply take the negative stance right off the bat.
  10. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    Yet another post about other posters, being picked on, etc, rather than the thread topic. You mention being bored by a hypothetical movie - we have a reality to match.

    Ok: Nonsense. The nature of your factual and historical errors on the topic is directly on topic, none of your obvious moral deficiencies were pointed out at any length by me, and in particular the quote there of mine has no morally based content or viewpoint whatsoever - wingnut radio feed is not just or even primarily morally decrepit, after all (although we note that seems to be your take on it - which is diagnostic). It's historical and factual and logical garbage as well, and that's the relevant aspect you are parroting here, and that has been specifically addressed -

    without response, as yet, from you. So any time - - - -
  11. Retribution Banned Banned

    Without response, as yet, from you. So any time...

    You want to actually say something, let me know.
  12. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

    I went ahead and reported your agressive obscenity laced rants. I have no idea why you are doing this but it is really not very attractive.
  13. Retribution Banned Banned

    Sure, no problem.
    If you can't speak for yourself, then by all means run and ask someone else to do it for you.

    If they come, preferably with a large club, then you will no doubt feel validated.
    Your significance, however, might still be open to question.
  14. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

    I'm not a mod, so I cannot issue warnings.

    I am not trying to feel validation, I just found your obscenity filled confrontational rant quite inappropriate (and bizarre) and feel that it has no place on a science forum.
    Whether I post or not has no significance so, what ever...
  15. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

    Shows over folks - the self immolation is complete at this point. Just as a heads up...
    Generally not a good way to get a point across, especially after having previously been banned for behavioral issues.
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