to vax or not to vax

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  1. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Don't know of any in Bali

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    My suggestion to girlfriend Inul was to say really why do I need a change of visa? I'm the same person no matter what visa type I have

    Put a place on the form (it is filled out on a computer) for the tourist to present their passport number

    Indonesian government could then claim either cost or vaccine vials to cover those administrated to a countries tourist (minus the countries vaccine jabs given to any Indonesian tourist)

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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    should in theory be able to be claimed under travel insurance medical
     
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  5. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    They bailed out as soon as Australia went into lockdown

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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    surely currency talks ?
    cash for vaccination ?
    i guess they wont make a price difference for international with no health or medical insurance
     
  8. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Possible but I'm not really into such a transaction

    I trust Inul and a few other girlfriends but very wary of new others

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  9. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    No... but I find the test annoying...... the swab made me sneeze in a roomful of medical professionals dressed up for a biological war and......

    I just wrote up some of my reasons to want to delay taking the vaccine as long as possible on another forum.......

    1. One of the reasons for this is that I feel the vaccines were rushed........
    2. Another reason is that my province Nova Scotia, has an astonishingly low incidence of Covid 19 infection
    3. I feel a need to be in solidarity with those who DID NOT TAKE THE VACCINE somewhat like how the people of Denmark all put on yellow stars of David in solidarity with Jewish citizens of Denmark during the time of The Holocaust. I would like to be in solidarity with Christians and Jews and others who DO NOT want to take any of the existing vaccines at this time for ethical reasons.
    and in another six months to a year information will come out regarding which vaccines have fewer negative side effects.
    4. I am taking vitamin C, D3, zinc and MSM and I feel that I am unlikely to get very sick even if I did somehow get infected with Covid 19... if I do not get sick I might not even be contagious?????
     
  10. Bells Staff Member

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    At this point, I can only come up with a 'oh poor you!'..

    The need for the vaccine was urgent. Obviously.

    It only takes one person who is infectious to visit your province for a short period of time to spread it. Just one.

    Seriously, that's your play?

    You are evoking the treatment of Jews in the Holocaust?

    You want to be in solidarity with Christians and Jews who do not want to take any of the existing vaccines for ethical reasons? Israel has one of the highest vaccinated population in the world. Their vaccine rollout has been incredible.

    You clearly aren't standing in solidarity with Jews, because they are getting vaccinated. So, you threw Jews in the fray to evoke the Holocaust in your frankly obscene and revolting comparison.

    Your reasoning is to provide cover for the Christian far right who are so prone to conspiracies, they believe a pizza restaurant was the front of a paedophile ring involving the Clintons. They are the ones not getting vaccinated. You want to stand in solidarity with that crowd? These are the same people who do not believe COVID is real.

    Do you know who you should be standing in solidarity with? People in your community who are immunocompromised, for example, who are unable to take the vaccine and who need everyone else around them to be vaccinated to provide them with herd immunity. But that would require not being selfish. Instead, you feel the need to be in solidarity with those who are selfish and frankly batshit crazy.

    None of which will protect you or others around you against COVID.
     
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  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Because you want to have a great story about how sick you were?
    Well, if enough people follow your lead, you'll have numbers to compare with Texas any month now!
    Do you feel a need to be in solidarity with Typhoid Mary, too? After all, she was blamed for a typhoid outbreak that she caused.
    You should wear a tinfoil hat, too. That way COVID-19 will never infect you. I saw that on a Youtube video so you know it's true.
     
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  12. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Only the aluminium protein version

    The other versions will happily snack on your inards

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  13. Bells Staff Member

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    Sweet jeebus Billvon!

    I choked on my tea.
     
  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    My work here is done.
     
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  15. Q-reeus Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Netanyahu indeed proudly boasted Israel was a shining example to the rest of the world with their rapid vaccination rate. Just don't ask how many Palestinians received the jab at the same time. The ultra tribal supremacist apartheid state is no example to be emulated. And Israel is not universally representative of Jewish attitudes to vaccination elsewhere - like here:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/reli...dox-jews-heres-why-many-them-go-unvaccinated/
     
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  16. Bells Staff Member

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    They changed their minds about Palestinians living in Israel. They are passing the buck on Gaza and the West Bank, apparently suddenly recognising that they aren't a part of Israel.. [https://www.bbc.com/news/55800921]

    But you make an exceptional point. I stand corrected!
     
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  17. Q-reeus Banned Valued Senior Member

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    I get a 404 error message with that link, but am guessing you meant to bring up this:
    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/18/middleeast/israelis-palestinians-vaccination-intl/index.html
    Reinforced by
    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/12/middleeast/israel-apartheid-regime-report-intl/index.html
     
  18. Bells Staff Member

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    Huh.. Weird. The link was working before.
     
  19. Q-reeus Banned Valued Senior Member

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    'Algorithms' quick off the mark perhaps? Or maybe just unfortunate timing.
     
  20. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    None of which will protect you or others around you against COVID.[/QUOTE]
    She certainly is an interesting case isn't she?!


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3959940/


     
  21. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    There are seven new cases in my province.... and the bulk of them are about a hundred and fifty miles away from me at least!

    My wife and I have been going out pretty much only to get groceries and we are not really minding this at all.

    https://novascotia.ca/news/release/?id=20210418001

    I didn't even get an ordinary cold or flu in the winter of 2020. It seems like D3, zinc, vitamin C and MSM is a great way to boost the immune system for somebody in my situation.
     
  22. Bells Staff Member

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    It only takes one person.

    In the winter of 2020, everyone was social distancing, most were wearing masks and the greater majority were living under some form of lockdown and restrictions.

    The reason you didn't get a cold or flu is because you were no confirmed outbreaks of the flu in 2020 in Canada: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova...o-cases-nova-scotia-canada-covid-19-1.5878189
     
  23. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I have read that there was no flu epidemic at all this winter in the N Hemisphere, precisely because of all the covid countermeasures everyone was taking. This was predicted by the epidemiologists, in fact.

    Almost no one has had a cold either, for the same reasons. All these are of course respiratory diseases, spread in much the same way as SARS-C-V-2, so it is hardly surprising that measures to suppress one will suppress the others as well.

    Yet we still have stupid people who think their freedom from colds and flu is something to do with their own virtuous lifestyle, diet and regime of supplements.

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