Turning the deserts green to decrease Global Warming?

Would turning deserts green reduce Global Warming?

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Dennis Tate

Is this really bad science or is there some logic in the idea that I submitted back in 2007 to the team at The Virgin Earth Challenge?

I admit that I am biased in favour of large scale desalination of ocean water partly due to the fact that my home is on a lake classified as tidal water. Millions of cubic meters of sea water being desalinated in the Middle East, California, Australia or in any area of the world with a lot of desert impresses me as being good news........

... .but am I in error in believing that???????


"Today, Sir Richard Branson and Al Gore announced
the setting up of a new Global science and technology
prize – The Virgin Earth Challenge – in the belief that
history has shown that prizes of this nature encourage technological advancements for the good of mankind.
The Virgin Earth Challenge will award $25 million to
the individual or group who are able to demonstrate
a commercially viable design which will result in the
net removal of anthropogenic, atmospheric greenhouse
gases each year for at least ten years without
countervailing harmful effects. This removal must
have long term effects and contribute materially to
the stability of the Earth’s climate."
My submission could be considered to be a "conspiracy" to alter the world economy very differently than in the way that Mr. Al Gore advocated and reads:

Anti-Armageddon Paradigm Shift Monetary Policy Theory The Introduction.


"Dr James Hansen, Director of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies: “I think we have a very brief window of opportunity to deal with climate change ... no longer than a decade, at the most. This is why I am supporting the Virgin Earth Challenge as a judge " we must explore all means, both known and unknown, to help alleviate this crisis."

Dennis Tate
March 15, 2007

Sir Richard Branson
Virgin Earth Challenge
120 Campden Hill Road
London W8 7AR
United Kingdom

Dear Mr. Branson:

It is my firm belief that the number one technological device to reduce atmospheric greenhouse gases has already been invented. It is the tree.

What is desperately needed at this time is not necessarily a new mechanical device but instead a paradigm shift in economic theory regarding monetary policy. We require a readily understandable explanation on how leaders in business and government can direct not only millions, but actually trillions of dollars of investment into combating global warming.

One of the most effective practical methods that could be put into place in the least amount of time would be dozens of the largest possible desalinization plants all along the Mediterranean and Red Seas. Huge quantities of fresh water could be dripped onto the Sinai and Sahara deserts and voila, well chosen species of newly planted fast growing trees could soon change the color of these relatively desolate areas, significantly reduce atmospheric CO2, positively affect local weather patterns and at the same time significantly counterbalance the increases in worldwide ocean levels as the polar ice caps melt. This will buy us some extra time and thus expand the "very brief window of opportunity to deal with climate change."

So who is going to finance the construction of all these massive installations not to mention the planting of all those seedling trees?

I believe that it is possible for you to do this yourself Mr. Branson. You have already created a Virgin currency unit/coupon which has astonishing long term potential. My wife Maria Jose just returned from a two week trip to the British VIRGIN Islands. It is theoretically possible to link your Virgin coupon with the national currency of a small nation and you could soon be playing around in macro-economics. Considering the volume of business being done through your Virgin Group I would submit that you already are.

Pope Benedict XVI may be in an even stronger position than you Mr. Branson to transform the world economy virtually overnight through the introduction of a new Vatican Currency Unit that could be linked with each and every national currency where the Vatican State is free to do business.

I plan to elaborate in great detail on these two major alternatives in a later writing but I felt that you and your staff should now see the simple explanation that I wrote up for applying this theory within a micro-economy to greatly reduce unemployment. Although combating global warming would seem to be a conflicting goal to job creation, there need be no dissonance when we all have a better grasp of the big picture.

I ran as an independent for the office of MLA in the most recent Nova Scotia provincial election.

Dennis Tate primary campaign writing for June 13/06 election
My idea at that time that I still consider to be somewhat valid is that the bulk of the actual heating of the atmosphere may be coming from the world's deserts.

The sand of the Sahara is extremely hot by two pm in the afternoon but quite cool by the next morning. Where did the extra heat go.....?

I think that the extra heat of the Sahara Desert radiated upward into the atmosphere thus increasing a general Global Warming Trend.

When I read a theory by a New Mexico biologist and coach Carl Cantrell... I contacted him and asked if I could add his article as part two of my submission to the Virgin Earth Challenge.

Mr. Cantrell and I submitted a proposal to the Virgin Earth Challenge elaborating on this theory. We didn't win, but we both feel better that we did our best to draw more attention to this seemingly logical method of combatting climate change:

February 22, 2008

Sir Richard Branson
Virgin Earth Challenge

Dear Mr. Branson:
Dear Mr. Gore:
Dear Mr. Tickell:
Dear Mr. Lovelock:
Dear Mr. Hansen:
Dear Mr. Flannery:

I am extremely glad that you are all doing your best to attempt to find a method to save the earth from the many perils associated with global warming. I believe you will be tremendously encouraged by the theory presented by biologist Carl Cantrell who makes a convincing case that global cooling can be initiated simply by pumping vast quantities of fresh water into the world’s largest desert.

Global Warming II by Carl Cantrell

“So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breath, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere, carried away by running surface water such as rain fall, is carried away to other areas by our winds, and diffuses down into the soil towards the earth's crust. All of this warms our planet increasing its average temperature.”

“Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes. This is very critical because warmer and dryer winds dry out other land areas faster decreasing the vegetation on those land areas. Less humidity in the air also reflects less sun light back out into space so that more sun light strikes the earth and more heat is generated….”

“The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave….”

“So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive….”

“Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds…”

“This will do a number of things. First, it will increase the moisture in the desert soil so that it will develop water tables and water will begin to run in the streams. This water will increase the amount of vegetation in the area and decrease the amount of heat being generated by sun light cooling the watered area and all areas down wind of the watered area. As more available water evaporates, it will cool the air and reflect more sun light back out into space cooling the area even more. Cooler and more humid air will have less of a heating effect on areas down wind and will reflect more sun light back into space in those areas cooling areas we won't be watering yet. Cooler and more humid air will also have less of a warming effect on our seas and oceans.”

“Rain water running off of cooler soil will decrease the heating effect on our oceans and our planet crusts which will decrease catastrophic storm activities for other areas and seismic activity for the entire planet. Also, returning more ocean water to the surface and aquifers of our continents will lower the sea levels providing more usable land for us to farm and build on.”

“With cooler desert areas and increasing vegetation, less water will evaporate from our deserts increasing the amount of surface water even more and increasing the amount of vegetation and animal life by huge amounts because deserts currently take up more than 20% of our land surface. Populations will be able to spread out and there will be less competition for existing land areas.”

“This strategy has to be done in steps with the first step being to begin slowing the rate at which our global warming is increasing. We need to focus on that until we have brought it to a point to where the temperature is not increasing any more and is reasonably stable. While we are doing this, we need to come to a global consensus of just how cool we want to cool our planet down to. If we cool it down too much, we will begin to have devastatingly harsh winters in large populated areas and even cause an ice age to set in.”

“Then we begin cooling the planet down to a point which will be most beneficial for all countries or the planet as a whole. We need to gradually bring the temperature down because there may be a lag effect in which the planet will continue cooling after we stop increasing our efforts to cool it off more. We may even want to stop cooling the planet once or twice before we reach our targeted temperatures to see if there is a lag effect…”

“We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time. (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell).”

Mr. Cantrell has agreed to become an official co-applicant along with me in my submissions for your Virgin Earth award. My primary contribution will be to figure out a method to PAY for this project which as Mr. Cantrell has stated, “will be extremely expensive.”

In “Anti-Armageddon Paradigm Shift Monetary Policy Theory – The Introduction” I stated that you Sir Richard, or perhaps the Roman Catholic Pontiff were two of the most logical choices to FINANCE this possible remedy for global warming. I shall attempt in a later writing to elaborate on a method whereby perhaps I may be able to finance this project myself through an organized barter and film production company that works in cooperation with several other film production cooperatives and/or companies. Here is a brief outline of how this could be done.

I work night shifts stocking the shelves at the ........ grocery store in Antigonish.

I plan to invite ...... to also become official co-applicants along with myself and Mr. Cantrell in our submissions. Their role that I will be proposing to them will be to sell me higher and higher amounts of damaged goods from their stores beginning of course with Antigonish. I plan to print up a barter currency unit similar to how a group of concerned citizens have printed the Calgary dollar:

Next I plan to encourage various local church and other non-profit organizations to become involved in a reality and/or semi reality film series where organized barter is used as a tool to raise funds for worthy projects that they desire to accomplish.

"The peril of Mother Earth and our children will not be alleviated without enlisting our spiritual heritage in the struggle. "Fight the worst with the best," advises farmer/poet/prophet Wendell Berry. At a National Academy of Sciences conference
in 1986 exploring the mass extinction of plants and animals on our planet, Paul R. Ehrlich of Stanford University declared, "Scientific analysis points curiously, toward the need for a
quasi-religious transformation of contemporary cultures."
(Coming of The Cosmic Christ by Dr. Matthew Fox).

I completely agree with these comments quoted by Dr. Fox. It will be necessary to generate interest among and enlist the assistance of many of the deeply religious salt of the earth type of people in each nation if we are to succeed in preventing the destruction of Mother Earth.

I plan to get back to you soon with results from various groups as I submit this proposal to them. I also plan to make you an offer to purchase a significant share of a barter and film production company that I have had on my mind for several years now.

Thank you for considering our submission.

Kind regards.

Dennis Tate

Here in the Canadian federal riding of Central - Nova, in 2008, Green Party Leader Ms. Elizabeth May
campaigned for the office of Member of Parliament.

Canada's Liberal Party did not run any candidate against her thus in a sense adopting Canada's Green Party as an
ally to Canada's Liberal Party.

I sent Green Party Leader Ms. Elizabeth May a copy of my 2008 campaign at the municipal level and she replied to me
essentially that : "turning deserts green is one part of a full response to climate change."

Her statement gave me a lot to think about and although I usually tended to vote for her rival Mr. Peter MacKay but I felt that
Ms. May's admission to me actually gave me something to work on perhaps for the rest of my life?

The text of my 2008 campaign writing is here.... I got into the topic of Climate Change in it.


The stats on how that federal election went are here:

My idea at that time that I still consider to be somewhat valid is that the bulk of the actual heating of the atmosphere may be coming from the world's deserts.
The heat is from the sun.

The atmosphere is trapping the heat in.

The sand of the Sahara is extremely hot by two pm in the afternoon but quite cool by the next morning. Where did the extra heat go.....?

I think that the extra heat of the Sahara Desert radiated upward into the atmosphere thus increasing a general Global Warming Trend.

I am closing this thread. Because a) you already have one discussion about greening deserts open and b) you seem to be using this one to spam your personal blog and personal letters you've written to people and c) it's all over the place and basically a complete and utter mess.
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