Turtle 'super tongue' lets reptile breathe underwater

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Turtle 'super tongue' lets reptile survive underwater
One type of turtle possesses an extraordinary organ that allows it to breathe underwater and stay submerged for many months.
The common musk turtle has a tiny tongue lined with specialised buds, scientists have discovered.
Rather than use this tongue for eating, the turtles use it to exchange oxygen, solving a mystery of how these reptiles can remain submerged for so long.
Is it possible other creatures managed to evolve a similar water-breathing technology I wonder? The secret behind 'mermaids' for example?
 
Er, fish come to mind. Surely you've heard of gills.
I was refering to this kind of thing Underwater breathing: the mechanics of plastron respiration & Could Humans Do It?
Abstract
The rough, hairy surfaces of many insects and spiders serve to render them water-repellent; consequently, when submerged, many are able to survive by virtue of a thin air layer trapped along their exteriors. The diffusion of dissolved oxygen from the ambient water may allow this layer to function as a respiratory bubble or ‘plastron’, and so enable certain species to remain underwater indefinitely. Maintenance of the plastron requires that the curvature pressure balance the pressure difference between the plastron and ambient. Moreover, viable plastrons must be of sufficient area to accommodate the interfacial exchange of O2 and CO2 necessary to meet metabolic demands. By coupling the bubble mechanics, surface and gas-phase chemistry, we enumerate criteria for plastron viability and thereby deduce the range of environmental conditions and dive depths over which plastron breathers can survive. The influence of an external flow on plastron breathing is also examined. Dynamic pressure may become significant for respiration in fast-flowing, shallow and well-aerated streams. Moreover, flow effects are generally significant because they sharpen chemical gradients and so enhance mass transfer across the plastron interface. Modelling this process provides a rationale for the ventilation movements documented in the biology literature, whereby arthropods enhance plastron respiration by flapping their limbs or antennae. Biomimetic implications of our results are discussed.
 
Could a giant species of sea otter (for example) have evolved a similar ability to the turtle. I say that it's just about possible? What about you?
 
Could a giant species of sea otter (for example) have evolved a similar ability to the turtle. I say that it's just about possible? What about you?

I don't think so. Mammals are a bit different in their oxygen requirements than reptiles.
Perhaps a very small mammal could evolve such an ability and use it to hibernate, but there would have to be a damn good reason for something like that to evolve. I don't think there are any mammals around that have the lifestyle for which such an ability would be useful (assuming it is at all possible).

Edit: The turtles don't use plastron respiration by the way. I don't know where you got that from..
 
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I breed Testudo Kleinmanni land tortoises for conservation. I've noticed on occasion when a baby tortoise has turned upside down in its water bowl with its nose submerged even for a number of hours and for all intents seems dead, it remarkably 'comes back to life' when taken out of the water and warmed up under lights. I've often wondered how long they can keep their breath for.
 
Note to self:

Not just otters but also dino-birds aka flying orb phenomena?

Oh. Okay. Note to self: ask for explanation from common_sense_seeker.

Common_sense_seeker, can you give an explanation for your statement "dino-birds aka flying orb phenomena?" Are you making some reference to the alleged pterodactyl creatures that supposedly glow at night?
 
I breed Testudo Kleinmanni land tortoises for conservation. I've noticed on occasion when a baby tortoise has turned upside down in its water bowl with its nose submerged even for a number of hours and for all intents seems dead, it remarkably 'comes back to life' when taken out of the water and warmed up under lights. I've often wondered how long they can keep their breath for.
Amazingly interesting post tabs, maybe it's all tortoise/turtles which have the ability to some degree. I'll have to google to see when they diverged. Must be lots of millions of years ago.
 
Oh. Okay. Note to self: ask for explanation from common_sense_seeker.

Common_sense_seeker, can you give an explanation for your statement "dino-birds aka flying orb phenomena?" Are you making some reference to the alleged pterodactyl creatures that supposedly glow at night?
Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about. I have a hunch that they sit on the bottom of the sea and use their phosphorescence to glow a green colour. It makes sense that they need to be able to 'hold their breath' for a considerably long length of time. I recently bought some collapsible lobster pots from a very nice man in Scotland. He advised me to I buy a flashing green light in order to attract the lobster etc. This saves having to use smelly mackeral as bait. This is what gave me the idea for the dino-bird/seaside connection. Here's a video of a glowing dino-bird caught on cctv imo. Fast forward to t=51 secs to see the left wing flapping Glow-bird caught on cctv at night
 
You do notice that it's raining, and there is water both running down and splattering on the glass of the camera's housing, right? I don't see an obvious reason why the shape moves to the right over the course of the video, but the splattering combined with the syncing of much of the movement with the three reflections in the same glass housing visible center top, I'd say this is most likely water droplets collecting on the bottom-right of the camera housing and reflecting light from the parking lot. It's blurry because its too close tot he lens and outside of it's focal range.

Or, night-flying, water-breathing, glow-in-the-dark dinosaurs left over from 600 million years ago hiding at the bottom of the ocean.
 
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