U.S. Tells Iran, Syria, N. Korea: "Learn from Iraq"
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Many of America's enemies are already watching and learning from Iraq and Afghanistan. However, they may not be learning what the Pentagon wants them to.
The 'Ramzaj group' - an interesting information gathering organisation that has proved fairly accurate and unbiased (see here ) - suggests that the US military has depleted its arsenal of weapons severely during the Iraq war. It is down near 25% of optimum operational capacity now and will take months to rebuild (not to mention billions). Don't think the US military can police Iraq AND take out Iran, Syria or North Korea at the same time. They could get UN forces in to do the state-building, but then the US would need to make compromises they seem unwilling to make.
On another note - Iraq was a hard sell internationally, Iran and Syria would be impossible. How much isolation is the US willing to take on now?
Can;t see it, but then with the WHite House as it is, who knows?
On another note - Iraq was a hard sell internationally, Iran and Syria would be impossible. How much isolation is the US willing to take on now?
Can;t see it, but then with the WHite House as it is, who knows?
Really, I would say having lots and lots and lots and lots of really good patriot missiles would be the only way to prevent a US invasion.
Nukes won't stop the us because they have lots and lots and lots of really good patriot missiles and also the people making the decisions have nuke proof bunkers scattered all over the country.
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I wouldn't call it chickenshit, as there is nobody that can actually defeat the US at this point in time. When you look at a potential foe you weigh gain vs risk; if you're going to go to war with a country to prevent them from nuking you and they nuke you in response, then you defeat the whole purpose of going to war. You can't forceably disarm a nation with nukes because of the potential repurcussions, but you can try and prevent nations from achieving them. Personally, I don't believe N. Korea has the capability at this point to strike the US with a nuke, but they could hit either of the US' leading allies in the East, S. Korea and Japan. In that case the risks outweigh the gains. N. Korea has to be dealt with diplomatically. I don't agree that every two bit nation out there needs to be armed with nukes, as most nations don't have the security systems in place to fully protect those weapons, and in too many 3rd world nations governments come and go too often. I don't think it hurts to have several responsible nations with nukes, even nations that aren't necessarily allies with the US, such as Russia and China. But IMO, N. Korea's leadership is too volatile to be trusted with nukes.
I wouldn't call it chickenshit, as there is nobody that can actually defeat the US at this point in time. When you look at a potential foe you weigh gain vs risk; if you're going to go to war with a country to prevent them from nuking you and they nuke you in response, then you defeat the whole purpose of going to war. You can't forceably disarm a nation with nukes because of the potential repurcussions, but you can try and prevent nations from achieving them. Personally, I don't believe N. Korea has the capability at this point to strike the US with a nuke, but they could hit either of the US' leading allies in the East, S. Korea and Japan. In that case the risks outweigh the gains. N. Korea has to be dealt with diplomatically. I don't agree that every two bit nation out there needs to be armed with nukes, as most nations don't have the security systems in place to fully protect those weapons, and in too many 3rd world nations governments come and go too often. I don't think it hurts to have several responsible nations with nukes, even nations that aren't necessarily allies with the US, such as Russia and China. But IMO, N. Korea's leadership is too volatile to be trusted with nukes.
"there is nobody that can actually defeat the US at this point in time."
But with a little patience, we can be goaded into overextending ourselves... and then being defeated.
But with a little patience, we can be goaded into overextending ourselves... and then being defeated.
~The_Chosen~
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Well said.
I scorn people with irrationally radical views.
Well said.
I scorn people with irrationally radical views.
I figure we should sweep up Iraq and then recall most of our forces, keeping only enough to secure them and man one military base. We can wait half a decade before going after the next bastard. In the meantime we work on making basra the next New York City.
"keeping only enough to secure them and man one military base."
That should only require about 500,000 troops and $50,000,000,000.00 annually. Hell, let's take on a dozen garrison colonies, and fund it with a total tax repeal.
Hmmm. NYC in Basra... OK by me if they'll take Hillary/Billery.
That should only require about 500,000 troops and $50,000,000,000.00 annually. Hell, let's take on a dozen garrison colonies, and fund it with a total tax repeal.
Hmmm. NYC in Basra... OK by me if they'll take Hillary/Billery.
& back 2 thread, how many terrific terrorist terrors in the Homeland before America "Learns from Iraq" and Afghanistan, that these occupations exponentially increase terrorist motives, recruitment, and funding?
~The_Chosen~
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Your reasoning is seriously flawed. It is just as saying let every household in a town have a gun and there will be peace. Since obviously, no one wants to start anything with a family that has a gun.
Nukes were built for one purpose: destruction
Your reasoning is seriously flawed. It is just as saying let every household in a town have a gun and there will be peace. Since obviously, no one wants to start anything with a family that has a gun.
Nukes were built for one purpose: destruction
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weak logic
You can not draw this conclusion from what he said,
he was saying that the US is not going to mess up with a nuclear armed nation.... so the lesson that nations should learn is " hurry up and be nucler before we strik you " lol
weak logic
You can not draw this conclusion from what he said,
he was saying that the US is not going to mess up with a nuclear armed nation.... so the lesson that nations should learn is " hurry up and be nucler before we strik you " lol