Wrong, it's totally logical to just plainly admit to the fact that there is no extraordinary evidence to claim it is anything with any degree of certainty, and as a result it remains a UFO of unknown origin and/or make up.It makes sense to dismiss mere possibilities with no evidence of their probability. A mere possibility isn't an argument for anything. Just idle and inconsequential speculations. If you have nothing more substantial that that, then maybe you should butt out.
Wrong again, the vast majority of the rest of the world is totally unaware of anything concerning this occurrence, as evident by the lack of publicity, due of course to the fact that it cannot be shown to be anything more than just another plain old hum drum UFO sighting and unworthy of any further constination.Actually the rest of the world sees a cylindrical object flying in sky. Nobody is seeing a shadow or a water droplet except James R. He sees what he wants to see.
If you heeded that wisdom, there wouldn't be a thread about this at all.It makes sense to dismiss mere possibilities with no evidence of their probability.
If you heeded that wisdom, there wouldn't be a thread about this at all.
See, this is perfect example.
You claim there is "no evidence of the probability" of raindrops, even though rain is as common as ... well, rain.
But something funny shows up in a picture and you are suddenly sure this is "compelling evidence" of Unidentified craft.
When asked how you can support such an extrordinary claim, you say "it's not extraordinary at all - people have been reporting UFOS for decades. Therefore they're quite common."
Yet you fail to apply that very same logic to raindrops. People have been seeing raindrops for millenia, yet you can't believe they would have the unmitigated temerity to show up on the windscreen of a jet fighter - because there is ... wait for it ... "no evidence of their probability."
So:
UFOs? You bet! The skies are lousy with em. All we have to do is invent an entirely alien civilization, with advanced technology, hidden from humanity.
But rain?? No. I'm way too skeptical to believe I could be seeing rain in the sky in a way I've never seen it before (because, in fact, I've never been in the cockpit of a jet fighter.)
Do not do this.
Wrong again, the vast majority of the rest of the world is totally unaware of anything concerning this occurrence, as evident by the lack of publicity, due of course to the fact that it cannot be shown to be anything more than just another plain old hum drum UFO sighting and unworthy of any further constination.
For a "cylinder" it seems to wobble quite a bit as it passes in front of different clouds, and it doesn't seem to be entirely opaque.
And out of curiosity, what has the "cylinder" to do with USOs? Did it crash into the ocean?
You're never seen a UFO with your own eyes, yet you are perfectly willing to take the word of anyone that comes along that they exist in myriad novel forms.I never saw rain with one black cylinder shaped drop on a jet windshield that moved in a straight line. Have you?.
It's a dirty job but somebody's gotta do itTip: don't even presume to tell me what to do. You aren't qualified.
IOW: "I don't know."Figure it out...
Do you have any numbers on how many people are aware of it and that also religiously accept what they see on you tube? Or are you again just making up shit?It's from a TV documentary and now on Youtube. Do you have any numbers on how many people aren't aware of it? Or are you just making up shit again?
You're never seen a UFO with your own eyes, yet you are perfectly willing to take the word of anyone that comes along that they exist in myriad novel forms.
But a raindrop? No! If it doesn't look like a raindrop I've seen before, it's impossible! And I sure wouldn't take the word of anyone else on that!
Again, there is no logic to where and how you decide to apply your idea of critical thinking.
It's a dirty job but somebody's gotta do it
Do you have any numbers on how many people are aware of it and that also religiously accept what they see on you tube? Or are you again just making up shit?
That would be awesome. It would cut you out of the conversation and we could get some real work done.It can also get you ignored. Would you like that?
That would be awesome. It would cut you out of the conversation and we could get some real work done.
I've seen plenty of ufos on video and photo. And yes, I take thousands of people saying they saw what they saw at their word just like I do from the nightly news and from history....
Magical Realist said: "I've seen plenty of ufos on video and photo. And yes, I take thousands of people saying they saw what they saw at their word just like I do from the nightly news and from history. But raindrops? No way! I'll need some extraordinary evidence for those."
It's not about you; it's about what you post. That is something you are offering up for public consumption.Always making it personal. Why do you constantly make this about me and the person I am.
To be clear. You're a person who isn't applying logic. Here, In this forum. What you can or can't do on your own time is up to you.Now I'm a person who can't apply logic.
My only obligation is to refute bad logic in a discussion. The counter-stance - that this is not compelling evidence is the default state. You made your case; it wasn't strong.you have any argument to make?
I have obliged.I'm being misquoted.
I asked you first. Still waiting for your answer.
JamesR: The water droplet would have been an excellent explanation of the object and its movement, but I think it rendered implausible by careful observation.
Watch the objects' position relative to the cockpit console:
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At 0:20s to 0:22s you can see the object move dramatically to the left relative to the cockpit console - and therefore relative to the aircraft's canopy.
The aircraft is banking to the right, so airflow over the canopy would be from right to left. A water droplet on the canopy might therefore move from right towards the left. Movement backwards along the fuselage would correspond to upward movement in the image. So, I'm not yet convinced that any of the movement shown is inconsistent with the water droplet explanation.If it were a droplet on the canopy, and were shifted sideways, it should have changed its long-axis orientation and - presumably moved backward.