Was the majority of the universe created by fusion?

[Beaconator]

Beaconator:

Every time you have made a claim in this thread, you have completely failed to tell anybody why you think it is - or could be - the case. In a few instances, you have alluded to vague pseudo-explanations, but either they are just random thoughts or else you've not actually investigated any of them to do even the most basic check for plausibility.

Dressing your pseudo-speculations up as questions doesn't help. If you actually want to learn something, don't tell us your half-baked "theories". Ask some real questions.

Your posts read like you are unable to concentrate on any one thing for very long, or as if you're deliberately trying to muddy the waters by introducing new concepts or problems in every post.

Try resolving one issue before introducing 20 new ones.

Try something other than idle speculation in a knowledge vacuum.

If you're honestly interested in cosmology, astronomy or particle physics, why not try to actually learn something about the topic? You have to learn to walk before you can run. It's blindingly obvious that you're not currently equipped to meaningfully speculate on the topics you're trying to discuss in this thread (if that's what you're actually trying to do). So why not try to fix that?

Let's look at what you've said, then.

Why? What brought you to that conclusion? What physics do you know that led you to that conclusion? Why don't you explain to other readers what convinced you that this statement is true? Your posts would be a lot more useful if you included some reasons for your beliefs - if you actually believe them and you actually have reasons, that is. Do you?

Explain how a "huge mass under the stress of gravity" is relevant to question of whether "at some point dark matter has to interact with itself".
Explain how two bodies in a head on collision bears on the question of dark matter interaction.

The "otherwise" in your statement also doesn't connect to anything went before. Are you okay?

What led you to that hypothesis, exactly? Please explain. Refer to the physics you think is relevant.

Do you have any reason at all to think that dark matter existed before the big bang? If so, tell me your reason(s).

Which specific equations are you referring to? Can you post them? Can you link to them?

Explain what led you to think that maybe we can "derive gravity" from the equations to which you refer.

Please give me ONE example of "a gravitational object without temperature". Tell me why you beleive that such objects exist.

These two statements are nonsensical. Are you okay?

Tell me how. What physics is relevant to this conclusion? Why do you believe it? What evidence or arguments convinced you of the usefulness of this speculation?

Please cite ONE source that supports your claim (other than yourself, obviously).

Please cite ONE source that supports this claim.

I expect a detailed response from you to this post. I sincerely hope you are not simply trolling.

Dark matter should be considered a gravitational object without temperature as it does not interact with ordinary matter. Yet under the immense gravity of dark matter it might be possible for ordinary matter to have risen from this pressure. The pressure then might push back leading to dark matter having a high temperature. This leading to the origin of dark matter to be “cold” and showing the first sign of temperature… a hydrogen atom or proton.

Dark matter may not have its speed limit set to the speed of light. It might be able to move faster. Falling dark matter from the outer edge of the universe could easily reach over light speed in the time it takes to fall to the largest source of gravity. A simple equation I can’t figure out.

I know I didn’t answer all your questions but I believe that is the just of it.

 

[Beaconator]

Take all the time you need I really appreciate all the time you have given me.

 

[James R]

Please quote the questions I asked you and respond to each one separately.

 

[trevor borocz johnson]

Dark matter should be considered a gravitational object without temperature as it does not interact with ordinary matter. Yet under the immense gravity of dark matter it might be possible for ordinary matter to have risen from this pressure. The pressure then might push back leading to dark matter having a high temperature. This leading to the origin of dark matter to be “cold” and showing the first sign of temperature… a hydrogen atom or proton.

There are a lot of dinosaur theories like dark matter that need to be weeded out of science. Heat creates all things and things without temperature don't exist and are nothing like dark matter.

 

[Beaconator]

Please quote the questions I asked you and respond to each one separately.

I can’t do it. Some of them may have been in an excited state.

in all likelihood if dark matter does exist it would travel straight through a black hole. It could have a gravitational affect without a force being applied to it…

 

[Beaconator]

There are a lot of dinosaur theories like dark matter that need to be weeded out of science. Heat creates all things and things without temperature don't exist and are nothing like dark matter.

And what makes heat? What is the origin of the first property of anything and everything?

What allows nothingness to have heat?

the vacuum energy at the event horizon of a black hole is not so different than that of the edge of the universe. Except black holes are driven by the pressures of light and matter. The edge is possibly pressured by dark matter.

 

[James R]

I can’t do it.

Won't, you mean.

Moderator note: Beaconator has been warned for posting nonsensical pseudoscience in our Science subforums.

Due to accumulated warning points, he will be taking a short time out.

 

[trevor borocz johnson]

And what makes heat? What is the origin of the first property of anything and everything?

What allows nothingness to have heat?

What makes heat? the nucleus. heat is infinite in both hot and cold, everything having a comparable temperature. For something to have no temperature is impossible. So if you take an amount of space and compress it you will cause it to heat up. Hot and cold or only relative to a person's universe as are time dilation and gravity.

 

[Beaconator]

Beaconator:

Every time you have made a claim in this thread, you have completely failed to tell anybody why you think it is - or could be - the case. In a few instances, you have alluded to vague pseudo-explanations, but either they are just random thoughts or else you've not actually investigated any of them to do even the most basic check for plausibility.

Dressing your pseudo-speculations up as questions doesn't help. If you actually want to learn something, don't tell us your half-baked "theories". Ask some real questions.

Radiance only provides heat to the surface of an object.

hydrogen is consumed not made by solar fusion.

Why? What brought you to that conclusion? What physics do you know that led you to that conclusion? Why don't you explain to other readers what convinced you that this statement is true? Your posts would be a lot more useful if you included some reasons for your beliefs - if you actually believe them and you actually have reasons, that is. Do you?

Explain how a "huge mass under the stress of gravity" is relevant to question of whether "at some point dark matter has to interact with itself".
Explain how two bodies in a head on collision bears on the question of dark matter interaction.

The "otherwise" in your statement also doesn't connect to anything went before. Are you okay?

I will recant my statement about dark matter interacting with itself.

What led you to that hypothesis, exactly? Please explain. Refer to the physics you think is relevant.

Do you have any reason at all to think that dark matter existed before the big bang? If so, tell me your reason(s).

Perhaps I’m not the best to ask about math related problems. I don’t know what is allowed and what isn’t.

As for dark matter being there before

1 I believe pressure has a greater bearing on the universe’s actions than light. It could measure forces more accurately.

Which specific equations are you referring to? Can you post them? Can you link to them?

Explain what led you to think that maybe we can "derive gravity" from the equations to which you refer.
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I will recant that statement as well. Sorry I get excited easily and my brain gets fried.

Please give me ONE example of "a gravitational object without temperature". Tell me why you beleive that such objects exist.

You spelled believe wrong…

Dark matter is reported to exist to help explain the missing gravity in the universe. So it stands to reason with a gravitational interaction there would be a heat exchange. By my accounts a massive one. So it is neither cold nor hot. I would consider dark matter without temperature.

These two statements are nonsensical. Are you okay?

Tell me how. What physics is relevant to this conclusion? Why do you believe it? What evidence or arguments convinced you of the usefulness of this speculation?

I think I should have said “Under the immense pressure of dark matter the forces might act just like a black hole forming hydrogen.
Think about it all the energy being sucked in vs all the energy that is accumulating at the edge.

Please cite ONE source that supports your claim (other than yourself, obviously).

Please cite ONE source that supports this claim.

I expect a detailed response from you to this post. I sincerely hope you are not simply trolling.

I’ll retract my final two statements. And look into finding the math again. I’ll have to relearn latex cause there buried on Wikipedia in charts.

 

[Beaconator]

What makes heat? the nucleus. heat is infinite in both hot and cold, everything having a comparable temperature. For something to have no temperature is impossible. So if you take an amount of space and compress it you will cause it to heat up. Hot and cold or only relative to a person's universe as are time dilation and gravity.

Or?

and that just gives off heat. Doesn’t “create” heat.

 

[trevor borocz johnson]

and that just gives off heat. Doesn’t “create” heat.

So heat is infinite and always has and will exist, doesn't matter if you are 10^24 degrees below kelvin, that's still nothing compared to the fact that it can be infinitely colder.

 

[Beaconator]

So heat is infinite and always has and will exist, doesn't matter if you are 10^24 degrees below kelvin, that's still nothing compared to the fact that it can be infinitely colder.

Or the infinitely warmer which could be inches away from the infinite cold.

 

[trevor borocz johnson]

Or the infinitely warmer which could be inches away from the infinite cold.

Beaconator I think because we live far away from the nucleus in orbit around it, that atoms are able to move through the coldness rapidly and that's where energy fusion comes from. My collision theory of fusion is that when two nuclei smash together they let out mass into orbit which releases some heat and energy. Then the material ejected from the nucleus forms a universe around the nucleus.

 

[James R]

Beaconator:

I believe pressure has a greater bearing on the universe’s actions than light. It could measure forces more accurately.

Please define "pressure" for me. I'm not sure you know what it is.

"The universe's actions" is very vague. To what, specifically, are you referring? Which actions?

Why do you believe that "pressure" has a greated bearing on those actions that light?

Please refer to the reasons for your belief. Refer to the science. You are posting in one of our Science subforums.

Dark matter is reported to exist to help explain the missing gravity in the universe.

No. If you're going to talk about dark matter in any kind of useful way, the first step is to learn what it is. Please do that. There are people here who might be able to help answer your questions.

So it stands to reason with a gravitational interaction there would be a heat exchange.

Give me your reasons, then. Refer to the relevant scientific principles. I'm not interested in your hunches and gut feelings, especially in the absence of any knowledge.

I think I should have said “Under the immense pressure of dark matter the forces might act just like a black hole forming hydrogen.

Here's what I asked you, again:
"What physics is relevant to this conclusion? Why do you believe it? What evidence or arguments convinced you of the usefulness of this speculation?"

Why have you made no attempt to answer my questions or to talk about some science?

Think about it all the energy being sucked in vs all the energy that is accumulating at the edge.

What are you talking about? Energy sucked into what? The edge of what? How can energy be sucked into anything? Energy isn't a substance.

 

[James R]

trevor:

Beaconator I think because we live far away from the nucleus in orbit around it, that atoms are able to move through the coldness rapidly and that's where energy fusion comes from.

What relevant physics led you to this conclusion about "where energy fusion comes from"?

Please explain the relevant science briefly.

My collision theory of fusion is that when two nuclei smash together they let out mass into orbit which releases some heat and energy. Then the material ejected from the nucleus forms a universe around the nucleus.

This is your own personal theory is it. Can you show me your calculations and comparison with relevant experimental results?

 

[James R]

Moderator note: Since much of the discussion here is about two people's personal fantasies, rather than science, I have moved the thread to Pseudoscience.

Members are reminded that our Science subsections are for discussions and questions about science.

 

[Beaconator]

Beaconator:


Please define "pressure" for me. I'm not sure you know what it is.

Pressure is force over an area.

"The universe's actions" is very vague. To what, specifically, are you referring? Which actions?

the Higgs boson is theorized to decay into dark matter. But I do not believe this is true because dark matter has no temperature and does not interact kinetically with other particles.

Why do you believe that "pressure" has a greated bearing on those actions that light?

pressure provides heat which provides fusion which provides radiance.

Please refer to the reasons for your belief. Refer to the science. You are posting in one of our Science subforums.

No. If you're going to talk about dark matter in any kind of useful way, the first step is to learn what it is. Please do that. There are people here who might be able to help answer your questions.

Give me your reasons, then. Refer to the relevant scientific principles. I'm not interested in your hunches and gut feelings, especially in the absence of any knowledge.

Here's what I asked you, again:
"What physics is relevant to this conclusion? Why do you believe it? What evidence or arguments convinced you of the usefulness of this speculation?"

Why have you made no attempt to answer my questions or to talk about some science?

What are you talking about? Energy sucked into what? The edge of what? How can energy be sucked into anything? Energy isn't a substance.

The edge of the universe could act like a giant black hole. It has the infinite pressure to become one… moving material as fast as the speed of light. Thus creating hydrogen.

I don’t know exactly how the cosmos the chemical and the micro fit together but I’m sure I have a good understanding of it.

Warm hot intergalactic medium may be the closest we see to dark matter inside the universe. Yet dark matter could move faster than light because it encounters no resistance at that speed from any particle and is thus able to create a shockwave of heat much stronger than WHIMs.

 

[Beaconator]

During fission you have the expansion of light and radiation yet also the expansion of the universe. Furring fission you have the same to a lesser extent.

 

[trevor borocz johnson]

What relevant physics led you to this conclusion about "where energy fusion comes from"?

Well they know from spectroscopy that the stars are composed of lighter elements, and it is assumed that stars start at Hydrogen and fuse their way up to 1-8. Then its a mess pfft as you know to the cause of fusion. It has to be caused by the collision of the nuclei and it would only make since that the collision of matter would cause a cratering and at least some material to be ejected from the nucleus. So essentially its caused by the fast movement which is permitted by the coldness of space far away from the nucleus. You didn't respond to my answers which pertain to this subject in the thread 'nucleus to the universe?'.

 

[James R]

Beaconator:

the Higgs boson is theorized to decay into dark matter.

What is your source for this claim?

But I do not believe this is true because dark matter has no temperature and does not interact kinetically with other particles.

How do you know that dark matter "has no temperature"?

pressure provides heat which provides fusion which provides radiance.

Please explain the relevant physics.

The edge of the universe could act like a giant black hole.

There is no edge of the universe.

It has the infinite pressure to become one…

What led you to that conclusion? Please explain the relevant physics.

...moving material as fast as the speed of light. Thus creating hydrogen.

Black holes do not create hydrogen.

I don’t know exactly how the cosmos the chemical and the micro fit together but I’m sure I have a good understanding of it.

What makes you sure?

Warm hot intergalactic medium may be the closest we see to dark matter inside the universe.

What do you mean? Closest in what way? Please explain the relevant connections, with reference to relevant physics.

Yet dark matter could move faster than light because it encounters no resistance at that speed from any particle and is thus able to create a shockwave of heat much stronger than WHIMs.

What is your source for these supposed properties of dark matter? Please cite at least one source that supports your claims.

During fission you have the expansion of light and radiation yet also the expansion of the universe.

What relevant physics supports your claim?

Please be sure to answer these questions after your time out.