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[CptBork]

Which starvation? Starvation at home is a not a very important problem.

I forgot, food is a decadent western concept invented to make Russians feel deprived.

Nor in my home, nor in Russia, which you seem to think is my home.

We'll revisit that in 5 years, once Germany starts cracking down on parasitic Soviet transplants.

And if it would be important, I would be unable to do much to change it.

Of course you can't change it, but you seem awfully invested in denying and prolonging it.

You know, the country where I actually live is an US colony, so what local people do has essentially no influence on those in power.

Apparently, any country not dominated by lazy drunkards with inflated egos is a US colony.

To change whatever they want to change, the people would have, at first, get rid of the US colonial administration, which is actually ruled by Merkel. This is rather difficult.

Yeah, it's rather difficult for free-thinking Germans to elect some dumbass fat lazy-eyed Russkie crony to run the show. If only they'd learn to emulate a mighty empire like Tajikistan or Belarus, they could do so much better.

 

[Schneibster]

Bashar "Genocide" al-Assad just got outed in the 2.5 TB data dump from Mossack Fonseca, along with his best billionaire buddy.

Gee, I wonder who turned him on to that particular chisel of lawyers?

 

[CptBork]

Bashar "Genocide" al-Assad just got outed in the 2.5 TB data dump from Mossack Fonseca, along with his best billionaire buddy.

Gee, I wonder who turned him on to that particular chisel of lawyers?

I wonder how many of those lawyers will end up doing prison time for hiding the proceeds of crime? Nah, let's just welcome them to New York and take them out to a Yankees game next time they're in town. I bet you like 5 people in total worldwide go down for this and none of them will be Russian or Syrian. Oh, and those 3 law firms ranked even higher than Mossack Fonseca that haven't been hacked yet? Yeah, nonething to see there folks, surely...

 

[Schmelzer]

I wonder how many of those lawyers will end up doing prison time for hiding the proceeds of crime?

Professional risk for these guys. Of course, what they do is legal, but this does not prevent the US to incarcerate them if they like to do this for whatever reasons. That Panama is a place where you cannot use the toilet flushing without the CIA knowing about this is well-known, so that those with accounts there are not enemies of the US, or at least have not been when they have opened these accounts. But this is not enough to make sure the US will not hunt one down.

 

[CptBork]

Professional risk for these guys. Of course, what they do is legal, but this does not prevent the US to incarcerate them if they like to do this for whatever reasons.

There's nothing legal about hiding your personal money away under false identities and middlemen, nor about concealing and denying these activities when faced with legal scrutiny in the countries where Mossack Fonseca offers its services. Prosecutors are already commencing with their investigations around the free world: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-probing-mossack-fonseca-lawyers-sueddeutsche

That Panama is a place where you cannot use the toilet flushing without the CIA knowing about this is well-known, so that those with accounts there are not enemies of the US, or at least have not been when they have opened these accounts. But this is not enough to make sure the US will not hunt one down.

Neither you nor I know much of anything about what it is that the CIA actually knows, and even if the CIA did know who was doing what, that wouldn't create a legal basis for prosecution or evidence gathering; the most they could do is guide prosecutors as to where to look for legal evidence. It's interesting to see you twist yourself into a pretzel here to justify why the US would implicate elite members of its own society and those of its allies just to expose more of Putin's dirty laundry, when there's already so much dirty laundry that even Ukraine couldn't handle the stench and had to leave.

 

[Schmelzer]

There's nothing legal about hiding your personal money away under false identities and middlemen, nor about concealing and denying these activities when faced with legal scrutiny in the countries where Mossack Fonseca offers its services.

So what? The lawyers don't have to care about this.

Prosecutors are already commencing with their investigations around the free world: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-probing-mossack-fonseca-lawyers-sueddeutsche

Of course, this is what one has to expect from the so-called "free" surveillance states. Opening a firm in another state is extremely suspect.

Neither you nor I know much of anything about what it is that the CIA actually knows, and even if the CIA did know who was doing what, that wouldn't create a legal basis for prosecution or evidence gathering; the most they could do is guide prosecutors as to where to look for legal evidence. It's interesting to see you twist yourself into a pretzel here to justify why the US would implicate elite members of its own society and those of its allies just to expose more of Putin's dirty laundry, when there's already so much dirty laundry that even Ukraine couldn't handle the stench and had to leave.

LOL, in Russia they only laugh about this "exposure". There is also agreement that the US wants to get rid of Poroshenko - or, alternatively, that this is a last chance for him to do what he has to do. The really funny thing is how this is discussed in German media. They seem to thing that Germans are completely stupid.

 

[joepistole]

Professional risk for these guys. Of course, what they do is legal, but this does not prevent the US to incarcerate them if they like to do this for whatever reasons. That Panama is a place where you cannot use the toilet flushing without the CIA knowing about this is well-known, so that those with accounts there are not enemies of the US, or at least have not been when they have opened these accounts. But this is not enough to make sure the US will not hunt one down.

LOL....and where is your evidence for that one comrade? No, you don't, you are making shit up again to suit your beliefs or Russian propaganda objectives. As you have been repeatedly told comrade, the world doesn't operate like your beloved Mother Russia. Unfortunately for you, the Panama Papers are clear evidence of Mother Putina's corruption.

 

[CptBork]

So what? The lawyers don't have to care about this.

So you say, but I say they should very much have to care about it. Not only should any greasebag lawyer who knowingly violated the law be prosecuted for doing so, but they should be sent to the same prisons South American drug gangs get sent to, so they can go perform financial and sexual services for them.

 

[Schmelzer]

So you say, but I say they should very much have to care about it. Not only should any greasebag lawyer who knowingly violated the law be prosecuted for doing so,....

Why would a lawyer with a nice income violate a law? There is no necessity at all.

Ok, there are also some lawyers who violate laws - but that are those directly working for the drug gangs, thus, they will be protected in jail too. And even if they violate laws, it is their job to do this in such a way that it becomes at least extremely difficult to detect this. So, it is anyway their job to care very much.

 

[CptBork]

Why would a lawyer with a nice income violate a law?

Because many lawyers aren't actually talented and industrious enough to make a nice income without cutting corners in law school and then breaking the law upon graduation, that's why.

Ok, there are also some lawyers who violate laws - but that are those directly working for the drug gangs, thus, they will be protected in jail too.

The lawyers in question weren't working for drug gangs. They were working for Putin's gangs, amongst others, but drugs only represent a small fraction of Putin's total income.

And even if they violate laws, it is their job to do this in such a way that it becomes at least extremely difficult to detect this. So, it is anyway their job to care very much.

If a lawyer violates the law, it's their job to resign their license to practice, and to tell the entire unhindered truth when their day comes in court. Yes lawyers should care about being in full compliance with the law, and more importantly, civilized societies should care about putting these greasy, balding/fake boob sexpot scumbags in their rightful places before they have opportunities to cause harm, rather than afterwards.

 

[Schmelzer]

They were working for Putin's gangs, amongst others, but drugs only represent a small fraction of Putin's total income.

It is really funny. Putin's name does not even appear in the papers at all. Instead, the US governor of the Ukraine Poroshenko appears there. But the Western propaganda is all about Putin.

 

[CptBork]

It is really funny. Putin's name does not even appear in the papers at all. Instead, the US governor of the Ukraine Poroshenko appears there. But the Western propaganda is all about Putin.

Putin's entourage is all over those papers, their money came directly from Russian taxpayers and state assets, and since you wouldn't care even if they were peeing right down your throat, they will continue robbing your country blind while you "laugh" about it. You think a guy who plays medieval rape music for peasants on his cello would make over a billion dollars in that line of work?

 

[Schmelzer]

Putin's entourage is all over those papers,

And Obama's entourage is not where, for the simple reason that it is a US-managed "leak". By the way, all this works for Putin, because it shows everybody that their money are not save at all in the West. That all the Russian superrich have some offshore accounts is not even hidden.

and since you wouldn't care even if they were peeing right down your throat, they will continue robbing your country blind while you "laugh" about it.

LOL, yet another guy who thinks I'm Russian. I'm German. I have been in Russia five years studying mathematics at the Moscow State University, that's all. But that means I know Russian language, have some Russian friends, and free to read the runet.

You think a guy who plays medieval rape music for peasants on his cello would make over a billion dollars in that line of work?

No. I think that a guy who is known even in the West as a childhood friend of Putin has a good chance to become a very good friend of a lot of the Russian superrich. Which is a good chance to become very rich as well.
Putin has a sufficient background to know that it would be extremely stupid to hide his own money in Panama.

 

[joepistole]

And Obama's entourage is not where, for the simple reason that it is a US-managed "leak". By the way, all this works for Putin, because it shows everybody that their money are not save at all in the West. That all the Russian superrich have some offshore accounts is not even hidden.

Well, first, you have absolutely NO evidence that this is a "US-managed leak". And if you believe this works for Putin, maybe Mother Putina did it. But I doubt it, because contrary to your assertion, it puts Mother Putina in a very bad light. It is concrete evidence his vast hidden wealth and the pervasive corruption which riddles Mother Russia. If super rich Mother Russians didn't need to hide their wealth, why are they hiding it?

LOL, yet another guy who thinks I'm Russian. I'm German. I have been in Russia five years studying mathematics at the Moscow State University, that's all. But that means I know Russian language, have some Russian friends, and free to read the runet.

Well, here is the thing comrade, your posts and your grammar clearly inform readers of your nationality and it isn't German...oops.

No. I think that a guy who is known even in the West as a childhood friend of Putin has a good chance to become a very good friend of a lot of the Russian superrich. Which is a good chance to become very rich as well.

Yeah, nothing to see here. Just your average starving obscure cellist with a few billion dollars of donated money to buy cellos for poor Russian children....nothing to see here. Unfortunately for you comrade, the world isn't as gullible or as docile as your average Russian.

Putin has a sufficient background to know that it would be extremely stupid to hide his own money in Panama.

Oh, then why is he doing it?

 

[Schmelzer]

Well, first, you have absolutely NO evidence that this is a "US-managed leak". And if you believe this works for Putin, maybe Mother Putina did it.

In fact, I have seen a Russian site which has proposed something similar. But I don't believe this too. Of course, one can argue that for a CIA-made lead this is too stupid because too obvious. But given the quality of actual Western propaganda, this is not plausible, because actually the whole Western propaganda is too obviously propaganda.

 

[joepistole]

In fact, I have seen a Russian site which has proposed something similar. But I don't believe this too. Of course, one can argue that for a CIA-made lead this is too stupid because too obvious. But given the quality of actual Western propaganda, this is not plausible, because actually the whole Western propaganda is too obviously propaganda.

LOL....and you think that makes any kind of sense? The bottom line is you don't have any evidence to support your assertions. You just mindlessly repeat your Russian sources and summarily and without merit dismiss all evidence and reason which conflicts with your Russian state owned and controlled sources. It's what you have always done, it is what you continue to do.