If you are an Emo, rise your hand

phlogistician said:
Oh, but EMO girlies love the way he so in touch with his emotions, and not afraid to be different (even though he's an EMO clone) and challenge sexual stereotypes (by adopting a female one), yadda yadda.

EMO girlies are mostly fat muffin tops anyway, so I guess they can't be too choosy.
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Ha Ha! Shit if that guy went to High School when I did he would have had the shit kicked out of him. I mean I wouldn't want to go back to the "Rocker" days but I would pick that any day over this.

visceral_instinct said:
So she shouldn't have posted something so ignorant.
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How is what I said ignorant? Not wanting my boys to dress like pansies? I am raising them and they do live under my roof and all...........
Not to mention I enjoy going places with them, but not so much if they dressed like little girls.

I agree with phlogistician that I would also be saving them from a potential beating. There are not too many of these kids running around here. There are some but
they are kinda looked at as weirdos.
 
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visceral_instinct said:
I'd find him attractive if he had more facial hair.

Why would you rip them out? There are people dying and being raped, and you would care that your son wore a piece of plastic in his hair??

This shit is socially constructed. What's this objective rule that says short hair for a male is "correct" but long hair and plastic clips means he's a maladjusted freak? He's the same person inside whether he's wearing hairclips or leather or whatever. You're decades older than me. You should know better.

I'm glad you're not my mother...you would probably have ripped out my facial piercings with the skin attached, in the name of this lovely thing called normality.
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You find a guy attractive who wears a girly head band and hair berets? :bugeye: We definitely don't have the same taste. I like a guy who actually looks like a man.

Yeah I would rip the headband and hair clips out, it looks absolutely ridiculous and he looks like a little pansy. Fortunately I don't have that problem because my boys like to look like UNMISTAKABLE BOYS!

They mind find it difficult to take their dirt bike helmets on and off with
the berets and headbands in their hair........... LOL

They would so laugh if they saw that guy if we were out somewhere.

I don't have a problem with Tatoos ( I have one myself) and Piercings as long as it is not overboard. So, No I wouldn't rip those out.

But a guy wearing girly hair ornaments, makeup ? maybe for Halloween but that's about it.
 
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Why the hell should a male not wear hair clips if it makes them happy? Saying they look "ridiculous" is not good enough. That's just your aesthetic opinion. They harm no one. It's a piece of plastic. It doesn't affect the fate of the nation, for flip's sake.

I wear hair clips and I also go downhill mountain biking.

So what if they are conventionally for girls? My long sleeve shirt with the blue lines was made for a man. So are a lot of my clothes. Would you have taken them off me?

Hell, I've always thought a certain degree of androgyny looked cool. As a 14 year old I had short hair scraped back against my skull and mostly loose clothes. Would you have intervened in that too?

Damn human beings are ignorant. Sometimes I wonder if the only reason I bother coming on here is due to the mild increase in my adrenalin level that I get from having an argument.
 
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visceral_instinct said:
Why the hell should a male not wear hair clips if it makes them happy? Saying they look "ridiculous" is not good enough. That's just your aesthetic opinion. They harm no one. It's a piece of plastic. It doesn't affect the fate of the nation, for flip's sake.
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I'm afraid it DOES affect the fate of nations. An entire generation of girly boys can drag whole continents into the abyss!
 
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shorty_37 said:
This is supposed to be a guy right? :bugeye:

I am glad I am not his mother......If I was I would rip those berets right out of his hair.

Please tell me what girl would find that attractive? He looks like a little pansy.
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I suspect a lot of gay men would even want to kick his head in.
 
Carcano said:
I'm afraid it DOES affect the fate of nations. An entire generation of girly boys can drag whole continents into the abyss!
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Funny, where I live, those "girly boys" are the ones NOT engaging in bullying and doing other ridiculous fucked up things. Those "girly boys" are the same ones who go to college and do productive things. It was one of those "girly boys" who took the time to look after me one time when I was being harassed by a pisshead who threatened to hurt me because I wouldn't go out with him.
 
nietzschefan said:
I'm not sure... exactly...testosterone I guess? :shrug:
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No, testosterone is a HORMONE. It does heighten certain behaviours such as aggression. It's not however a reason why wearing a hairclip warrants kicking someone's head in.

Why do we need our sex roles to be so defined that wearing something more commonly associated with the opposite sex is a crime? So what if a male wears a hairclip? It won't make his balls fall off.
 
visceral_instinct said:
No, testosterone is a HORMONE. It does heighten certain behaviours such as aggression. It's not however a reason why wearing a hairclip warrants kicking someone's head in.

Why do we need our sex roles to be so defined that wearing something more commonly associated with the opposite sex is a crime? So what if a male wears a hairclip? It won't make his balls fall off.
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I dunno ok?? he just needs his ass kicked! I bet he had no father figure around.
 
visceral_instinct said:
Why the assumption that he must have only done it to get a reaction? Why shouldn't males use hairclips? That's a stupid rule.
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Who said it's a 'rule'? Do you think the guy in that picture is so dumb he wouldn't know it could get a reaction? Come on, don't be naive.

So you know him personally and you know he's a pretentious twat?
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Let's look at the evidence. He's playing at cross dressing while hiding in his bathroom, attempting to convey a particular image, but clearly doesn't have the courage of his convictions to take that picture in a public place. So yes, he's a pretentious twat.

I don't have a persecution complex. I just get annoyed at ignorance.
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That's funny, it's like you think you know more about being in a subculture than someone who is 20 years your senior and still in one, ...
 
visceral_instinct said:
I find the level of hate here slightly disturbing and out of proportion.

Why is liking certain music and wearing certain styles a sign that you're a lazy piece of crap who never had to work or otherwise earn anything? Why is liking those clothes and music a generalized societal problem?
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Finally, A voice of reason. I was unsure at first how to respond to this thread because one can be sensitive and emotional WITHOUT looking like that picture. And if that's how they look, whats wrong with that ? People have their phases and social tendencies. It's not our place to criticize their lifestyle choices. They either learn (if there's anything wrong with it), or they don't.

visceral_instinct said:
Am I also automatically a lazy spoiled brat and a walking symptom of social problems, because I'm wearing dark clothes and have facial piercings??

Would you rather that emo kid was out getting paralytically drunk or punching another young male in the face because that's what you have to do to be masculine?

Seems kids can't win. Be normal, you're in the wrong. Be different, you're in the wrong too.

Seriously, you want something to violently disapprove of, try female genital mutilation, or maybe animal abuse.
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Double standards are greater for the youth than any other age group. Perhaps because many regret not spending their youth differently.

I have to admit though, I do feel disconcerted by facial peircings. Especially excessive ones. But that's just me.
 
shorty_37 said:
How is what I said ignorant? Not wanting my boys to dress like pansies? I am raising them and they do live under my roof and all...........
Not to mention I enjoy going places with them, but not so much if they dressed like little girls.

I agree with phlogistician that I would also be saving them from a potential beating. There are not too many of these kids running around here. There are some but
they are kinda looked at as weirdos.
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Let me employ a double standard here:
Your teaching your kid to be bland, social conformists, who will always be dominated by an alpha male.
 
phlogistician said:
No, I'm a Heavy Metal fan, and we were often attacked for being such by soccer yobs. I still have visible scars some 20 years later after one incident.

I find VI's outlook quite self centred and naive, therefore.
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But aren't you kind of doing the same thing those 'soccer yobs' were doing (sans the violence of course)?
 
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