A Perfect World?

No, I believe the mind is useful. Granted, bacteria won't sit in bed stressing over what might happen, but it also won't enjoy the benefits of discussing its own existence.
The only question, from an evolutionary perspective is: does it adapt and survive?
Bacteria have been successful at this for a thousand to ten thousand times longer than humans.
 
The only question, from an evolutionary perspective is: does it adapt and survive?
Bacteria have been successful at this for a thousand to ten thousand times longer than humans.
The reproductive cycle of bacteria is a thousand times faster. Of course it has an evolutionary advantage.
 
The reproductive cycle of bacteria is a thousand times faster. Of course it has an evolutionary advantage.
Win win for bacteria... As I said before, no pain no suffering and no worries. But they can't ponder, is that bad in this respect?
 
So, you wouldn't halt pain, suffering and stressing in the world if it took away your enjoyment in discussing existence?
Sorry SP. I didn't catch this post until now. It seems that pain and suffering are temporary--other than that which swims within the mind.
 
It seems that pain and suffering are temporary
But always present in your god's world.
So, you Bowser can just accept anything that comes your and your loved ones way as a test from your god. Rest easy it's only cancer.
Cancer is God. Is that what you mean when you say everything is God?


--other than that which swims within the mind.
It's all God.
 
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But always present in your god's world.
So, you Bowser can just accept anything that comes your and your loved ones way as a test from your god. Rest easy it's only cancer.
Cancer is God. Is that what you mean when you say everything is God?


It's all God.
I would be oblivious if I didn't recognize death as an aspect of life.
 
I would be oblivious if I didn't recognize death as an aspect of life.
Bowser don't dodge the question asked in my post# 26:
you Bowser can just accept anything that comes your and your loved ones way as a test from your god. Rest easy it's only cancer.
If you dodge again, I will take it that you do see pain and suffering as a test from your god.
 
If you dodge again, I will take it that you do see pain and suffering as a test from your god.
I see it as an aspect of life. The question better asked is, how much pain and suffering is unnecessary? How much is enough?
 
Yes, that is a question for your god to answer about cancer.

Yes, that's another question to ask your god about other diseases, why so many?
I don't understand the question. Are you angry because people die?
 
I want to know does Bowser consider cancer to be the work of his god?

Playing Devil's Avocado for a moment.

I've never seen a paradox in a loving god that allows suffering.
For one, I think that the skeptic's concept of an all-loving god is a bit of a strawman. I think that the skeptic interprets "all-loving" as "all-intervening" and therefore invents a paradox as soon as we see humans suffering.

In my opinion, there is some self-consistency in a God that creates a world with realistic challenges and gives his subjects free will to make their own decisions. Like a scientist studying mice. He loves them, but that doesn't mean he coddles them.

The argument 'why would an all-loving God allow suffering?' is, in my view, a very weak skeptic's argument.

Indeed, it is an argument by incredulity - which is one of the very logical fallacies we often accuse theists of committing. 'I can't see the logic here, therefore it can't be true.'
 
Playing Devil's Avocado for a moment.

I've never seen a paradox in a loving god that allows suffering.
For one, I think that the skeptic's concept of an all-loving god is a bit of a strawman. I think that the skeptic interprets "all-loving" as "all-intervening" and therefore invents a paradox as soon as we see humans suffering.

In my opinion, there is some self-consistency in a God that creates a world with realistic challenges and gives his subjects free will to make their own decisions. Like a scientist studying mice. He loves them, but that doesn't mean he coddles them.

The argument 'why would an all-loving God allow suffering?' is, in my view, a very weak skeptic's argument.

Indeed, it is an argument by incredulity - which is one of the very logical fallacies we often accuse theists of committing. 'I can't see the logic here, therefore it can't be true.'

In the world God chose to create children bein raped will suffer an thats realistic… but why is the possibility of children bein raped necessary for a lovin God.???
 
Playing Devil's Avocado for a moment.

I've never seen a paradox in a loving god that allows suffering.
For one, I think that the skeptic's concept of an all-loving god is a bit of a strawman. I think that the skeptic interprets "all-loving" as "all-intervening" and therefore invents a paradox as soon as we see humans suffering.

In my opinion, there is some self-consistency in a God that creates a world with realistic challenges and gives his subjects free will to make their own decisions. Like a scientist studying mice. He loves them, but that doesn't mean he coddles them.

The argument 'why would an all-loving God allow suffering?' is, in my view, a very weak skeptic's argument.

Indeed, it is an argument by incredulity - which is one of the very logical fallacies we often accuse theists of committing. 'I can't see the logic here, therefore it can't be true.'
I'm playing with being told by Bowser that ''God is everything''. And, now to you Dave, what does a god ,who is everything get out of making parts of itself suffer?
Bowser, so is god not everything? Is there something that's not of your god, freewill? Is that the bad in the world? Is that where all the bad comes from? Was it the freewill of man that made cancer?
 
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