Show me the Equasion that says magnetic field is thermal? Roschin & Godin said that they found 'the predicted concentric magnetic cylinders' and that the temperature drop was 'as to be expected' for a .5 tesla field also keep in mind that Prof. Pitkannen from Tampere University gives a mathematical explanation for this as well. "Most certainly it is easy to calculate the energy stored in a magnetic field, so by 'convention' it has to come from somewhere; has been applied to refrigeration even"!" ---Mike. J. Furness TAP-TEN Research Associate If there is no equation for this within Academia, then the magnetic field is not subject to the general "Lies" of thermal dynamics which lay outside of the 'known' constructs their proverbial box. Acedemia Needs an Intellectual "A-L-T-i-T-U-D-E Adjustment" ---Gary Voss Pres.Founder TAP-TEN Research Additional Ref: Since Custer's degree is in physics, maybe you could ask him if those "violations of the laws of physics" include the kind of gyroscopic propulsion which Laithwaite seems to have demonstrated. Area 51 - A Personal Account by V.L. Custer - Part 1 Transcript of V.L.'s Custer, South Dakota Meeting in August, 1995. This is a transcript from a tape of a talk that he gave regarding his 12 years at Area 51.