About how bad should I feel?

If I was a 16 year old girl right now, I might think you were a dick, but get over it. Since I'm not 16, I really don't think what you did was that BIG a deal. You said something you didn't mean in the heat of the moment and I'm almost positive you're not the first

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It would only be wrong (IMO) if it was something you did continually to manipulate someone who did actually love you. Then that's just fucked.

Either way, you're 16. So what. Hope it was good!

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many girls don't get over it, and for those of us who do, it isn't easy. when you're young, you want to believe in love. actually, you want to believe in love when you get older to, but the more times you are lied to, and taken advantage of, and hurt, the harder it is to do. and that's a damn shame. i also think it's pretty clear that many guys don't stop lying in order to manipulate women when they get older either.

 

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Sad. This was premeditated.

She "liked you for like three years". You took advantage, but you're rid of her now, I reckon.

And your friend may never look at you the same. That's a bummer.

Meh, I know a lot of guys that shrug that stuff off and then they're on to the next. Perhaps "most men", as some say.

Not me, though. That's the type of thing I would beat myself up over for a while.

 

Are you assuming because of my response that I have never had to get over something similar? You don't really know me, so please, don't preach.

So you should therefore forget you have working brain cells and believe anyone who says they love you?

Yes, yes it is, but it's part of life. Overcoming pain and disappointment and cruelty.

Everyone manipulates. Just saying.

 

i'm not preaching; i'm being honest (ironically). and i'm not assuming...well, ok i am...that you're right, everybody gets hurt in life. BUT it sucks, and it doesn't have to be that way, and i'm not into condoning and making excuses for liars or manipulators, and that goes for me too. guys aren't the only ones who do that.

 

And the whole "I'm a girl so I have a global excuse to be 'protected' and treated respectfully" is also sickening and pathetic.

Do you not realize what a contradiction your statement was?

V.I. said ti just right

 

And ther more stupid and gullible and over trusting you are, the more likely you are to continue to fall into this trap... And thats a damn shame!

I also think its pretty clear that some women are incapable of learning...

 

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:soapbox:

 

Jesus fucking christ - no one listened to that maskarakananana song...spells out the whole thing perfectly.

 

K I checked it out, was pretty good!

 

lying to manipulate someone, sexually or otherwise, is wrong and hurtful. do people do it? yes. do people have to do it? no. why do people do it? because they're selfish, hateful, abusive assholes. and learning about these people sucks.

this isn't rocket science.

 

expecting good things out of people, and being able to trust, are good things.

again, not rocket science.

 

looking out for a woman's best interest and being respectful is in no way sickening or pathetic. don't kid yourself.

 

Distractions distractions distractions

I have no idea.

 

He liked her anyway. He did have feelings for her. So what if he said 'love' when a more realistic word would be 'like'??

I don't think saying something in the heat of the moment is the same as being coldly manipulative.

He did have feelings for her.

Nope. I hate lying and even if I have to do it, you can read me a mile away, because I instinctively stiffen up and won't make eye contact.

There is a difference between consciously lying and exaggerating your words in the heat of the moment out of emotion or desire or whatever. It's normal to do that and most people know when to not take it literally. When you don't, that's usually called a disorder.

But in your example the guy got an actual reward. This girl wasn't in that sort of situation at all. Is there really such a difference between having sex with someone you LIKE (in the sexual/romantic sense) and having sex with someone you LOVE?? Does that little matter of degree matter so damn much? What does she get out of "love" that she just doesn't get out of "liking"??

 

Ack. Sorry, Bells, you're right - I read his post over once and it kind of went in my eyes and out the back of my head *duh*.

 

Are women incapable of looking out for their own best interests? A woman should be able to fend for herself and be independent! Such a woman is a huge tun on to me. I don't think women, or anyone for that matter deserves to be disrespected or mistreated. But a person should also be able to take care of themselves and be aware of bad people. If a woman would be with me only to feel safe and secure, than she would be in the relationship for all the wrong reasons.

This is not rocket science.