All matter photons?

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  1. Reiku Banned Banned

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    Lol

    Except the climax may not be so fulfilling.

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  3. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Book-marked.

    I have thought that for years, though the reasoning I used seems a bit different from yours.
    I want to read your page more thoroughly.

    Tell me, what are your thougths on:
    The Michelson-Morley interpretation
    The photo-electric effect
    The apparent wave/particle duality of photons
    The mass of a photon
    and
    Unification of forces

    With respect to your hypothesis?
     
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  5. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    100% agreement, and well put!

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  7. Reiku Banned Banned

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    Who's?
     
  8. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Vern's.
     
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  10. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    Michelson-Morley showed that relativity phenomena is real.
    The photo-electric effect shows that it is the energy content of a photon that can dislodge an electron, another piece of evidence that matter is a photon construct.
    Wave-Particle duality is the result of the photon construct as two points of electromagnetic saturation surrounded by a diminishing field of electromagnetic amplitude. Just as Maxwell showed.
    The mass of a photon is m=hv/cc. Mass is a state of a photon that happens when the path of a photon is bent. To be stable it must be bent into a complete circle. Even then only one frequency is stable; that of the electron.

    But; I'm probably boring you.

    You can see my place at PhotonTheory.com where I keep trying to get people to re-think Maxwells old hypothesis.
     
  11. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    Unification deserves much more than just one line. I had a wild ass guess that is not easily shot down. It is based upon the electron being the largest of the elementary particles. The electric force originates at the electron's radius and so the electrons electric force is the weakest of the electric forces. The outer shell of the proton is stronger as are the other shells. The strong and weak nuclear forces come from the dynamics of the inner shells.

    It is a wild guess, but it shows that it is possible to unify based upon electromagnetics.
     
  12. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    So you don't the photon as a particle?

    "Real" or mathematically sound?


    So, you think photons "travel"?
    Not an aether proponent?
     
  13. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    What keeps electrons from decaying? WHY are they stable?
     
  14. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    Real.

    There's no need for aether; space has all the properties it needs. Permitivity and permeability [sp].
    Photons exist as saturated points of electromagnetic amplitude. Fields surround the points diminishing in amplitude with distance away from the points. Like Shrodinger said. it is all waves

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  15. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    This is just my own scheme, but I suspect that two things cause a photon of the right frequency to get trapped into a stable resonating pattern. Positive feedback from the photon's bent path and resonance when the bend radius puts front to back in one wave length.

    That's a SWAG, but those two forces do exist.
     
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    Maybe we haven't lived long enough to see them spontaneously decay, THAT IS, if they decay at all.
     
  17. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    What causes this to happen? What causes a photon to get trapped in a pattern?
     
  18. Reiku Banned Banned

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    What causes an electron knot?
     
  19. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    Another photon. It takes two

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    It makes two particles. Just as in QM theory.
     
  20. Vern Registered Senior Member

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    As I responded to BenTheMan a jumble of photons come smashing together and some get curled into resonating patterns. But that is a guess.
     
  21. Mike Honcho Shut up and calculate Registered Senior Member

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    The OP is:
    Is all matter photons?
    -That depends on whether or not photons are pure fundamental energy AND whether or not mass is the equivalent of matter.
    If so...
    E=MC²
    My understanding is that m is a constant. That just leaves E and M being equivalent.
     
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    Honcho...

    ...mass and matter are the same thing, and \(M\) includes both terminologies.
     
  23. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Can you show how this is possible? Can you show a consistent bound state between two photons?
     

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