I followed on the Media, for several months America's presidential election campaign and things that were related to it. If I would be American, so I wouldn't vote neither Trump or Clinton, because they both have done things that are against my moral values. I wrote about my observations why America's Media favorite Hillary Clinton lost the election. The thoughts are mine and you can agree or disagree with me. More info: http://www.kotipetripaavola.com/uspresidentialelection2016.html
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Playing devil's advocate, finances are most important and fundamental to people and so is security. Rightly or wrongly, the perception of trump as ablest to do that won him votes even among minorities. Most people tend to vote with their pocketbooks and dont care about anyone else no matter what race. People forget that minorities and women etc are just people too and not all of them are progressive either. They could be religious or bigots or prolife or racist themselves or simply not care about any issue at all. But the other twist i like about this outcome is how this shakeup brings the truth out for all to see on either side and whatever heritage. The bigots as well as the'all about me' on all sides can see no one is immune when a climate of hostility and racism and sexism is endorsed, including the minorities ones who voted for trump. They will be forced to think about issues they ignored as they could be a target. Lmfao! Still, after the dust settles, i would still like to have an open mind about what trump will do and depending on what and how, it could have positive results. Honestly, i cant disagree that much of his to-do-list is very practical and sound. It is necessary which the far left have been ignoring with their head in the clouds far too long. From the standpoint of priorities in putting your nation first and taking care of it first is sane and the right position. If you dont take care of yourself, how can you be good for others? Now the unknown is if he is wise or evolved past this point. He needs to realize you cant be a real leader pandering to only half the population. He needs to be more flexible. To be a true world leader, that needs to extend outward after you've taken care of your personal business and have mutually beneficial relations with the wider world, not just a typical oppressor or extortionist policies, otherwise you are just the same and not anything to look up to. America is a great nation and looked up to because it tries to be a model of change for a better world and planet. He needs catch up on environmental issues and work with other nations as well as we all live on this planet. He needs to use fair trade policies as well etc
Generally yes. No. Just areas with a more urban, more educated, more employed population. You have to separate the media in general with journalism. The media is represented by educated, urban people, who are appalled by Trump, and rightfully so. Journalists were objective in their reporting of both candidates. While opinion pages in newspapers were strongly against Trump, due to his obvious bigotry, the media reported the news impartially. Opinion pages are not journalism. Reporting what Trump actually said made him look bad to many people. Show me an example of where what they reported was wrong, while the alternative media is often factually wrong, and deeply biased against Clinton and for Trump. Total nonsense. In fact, it is Trump who suggested that the right of free speech should be curtailed, which means being able to sue journalists who write stories that criticize him using facts. Corruption is in both parties, and the Republican party is in control now, thanks to Trump. They would not bite the hands that fed them. This election was about rejecting establishment politics, this means that the Democratic Party has to re-evaluate it's approach to the economic prosperity of working class people. And they need a candidate that is likable. Maybe third party candidates will rise up. Maybe Democratic Socialism will prevail. I personally think Trump is a con man, and that he will come to represent the establishment. He is already filling his transition team with Washington insiders and lobbyists.
Hillary lost because she was a horrible candidate, untrusted such that no one believed what she claimed were her policies, she was the quintessential lying through her teeth bought-out corrupt establishment candidate. Worse many of the polices she pushed few cared about to begin with. Finally the regressive lefts smug slanders made many people not express their pro-trump opinions openly or to the pollsters thus the polls were skewed. The anti-establishment democrat candidate was thwarted by DNC who were shillary shills (thanks to email leaks). Sanders who primary policy points was increasing wages, taxing the rich to pay off student loans and pay for public medical care, was believable on account that he has been saying the same thing for 30 years and has not flipped or evolved on issues like Hillary has. We all know he would have provided a better fight against Trump. Trump won because he pointed out the fact the middle class had been stagnate for nearly two decades now, suffering, and that he is going to rape the establishment to death ("drain the swamp") and make it all great again (somehow), that was good enough for the desperate masses.
The Republican propaganda machine has been carefully nurturing both George Wallace's political base and the most successful Christian fundamentalist rabble-rousers. They supported far-right media outlets with little regard to facts but a penchant for inflammatory rhetoric and exaggerating grievances. Further, their state legislatures have been busily gerrymandering and deregistering minority voters in all their districts. Then the party purged all its intellectual, moderate or reasonable members, and any with a social conscience or insufficient dedication to tax exemptions and deregulation for business. Then they went on an all-out personal hate campaign of lies, vitriol and malignancy against Obama - so that ignorant voters were enraged both whenever he tried to do something for them and when the Republican legislatures at all levels prevented him doing it. Very deft manipulation and quite evil. Of course, they didn't realize how badly it could backfire. Many of them still don't.
And there's always this nagging statistical pattern, never explained, that has been a feature of every Presidential election since the widespread conversion to electronic voting machines, and has determined three of the past five Presidents of the US (every Republican win, including this one): http://tdmsresearch.com/2016/11/10/2016-presidential-election-table/. In 23 of the 28 States exit polled, the difference favored Trump. In 5 it favored Clinton. In Minnesota the exit poll showed a Trump win, and the machine count showed a Clinton win. This was within the margin of error of the poll. In Michigan the exit poll showed a tie vote, and the machine count showed a Trump win. That was within the margin of error of the poll. In Pennsylvania, Florida, North Carolina, and Wisconsin, the exit polls showed Clinton wins, and agreed with the pre-vote polling. The machine vote count delivered Trump wins. The announced vote count varied from the exit polls by more than the standard error of the exit poll in three of those States, the exception being Florida. That was enough to flip the electoral college allotment and determine the 2016 election winner, because the vote was close in those States. That was also the effect in 2000 and 2004. The same pattern showed up in 2012 and 2008, but the alteration was insufficient to overcome the absolute vote count and change the allotment of electoral votes.
Trump may also have in mind to create and extend a politicial dynasty with his children. That is something trump would be looking to do also.
Who are "the elite" as perceived by "the white no college degree male"? Why it is these voters do not see Trump as one of the " elite ". I don't get it I would have thought Trump was the epitome of " elite". Is it an education thing? Is it money? Old families? Alex
He is old school archaic, sexist, racist, male chauvinist persona with money. Just what an ignorant, less evolved and less educated white male would look up to or want to emulate/become.
Hillary should have followed Michelle Obama's advice, when they go low - go high. Instead she crawled down in the mud with Trump, thereby letting him drive the "discussion".
I think James Comey sealed the deal near the end, but I also recognize there's a lot more involved--many variables. Those in my circle who voted for Clinton did so out of fear of Trump, yet they had no enthusiasm for a Clinton presidency. The Democratic and Republican parties really should do a detailed survey of the American voter. Both parties have lost touch with the average Joe, or they simply don't care.
Because he don't talk fancy. The "elite", more often "liberal elite" is anybody who promotes civility, gun control, equal marriage, diplomacy and access to birth control. It's all their fault the jobs were exported the banks were bailed out and the insurance companies are gauging people for health coverage. Because they over-regulate business and tax the job-creator. Those same people worship the devil and control all major television networks. Don't you know anything?
I see what you mean. However I think if you have to wear a suit and tie after 50 years old that to me is a failed life. I had to wear a suit and tie each day every day and I think the concept is crazy. And not having to shave and cut your chair...staying in bed and having lunch there if you wish...that is success. Not having to worry about taking a lift with the boys from the mission ( aboriginal young men) and playing guitar with them and pool that's success. Not giving a rats as to what the whole town thinks about you. Money heck you can only eat and drink so much and drive one car at a time. Folk don't know what success is but I suppose some would envy him. He could not even go to church unless it was business related. Having money is a lot of work. Giving orders following up etc.. Alex
Thinking about things I don't know much. Can't understand the racial hate thing. I know good and bad people and their race has nothing to do with it. I would think overseeing who gets a gun would be a good idea. Marriage I am against marriage but if folk want to get married that's their problem not mine. I worked in the Divorce Courts for a couple of years and have seen how lovers and good friends can want to kill each other. One in three fail... Birth control should be made retrospective and abortion extended to 21 years after birth. As to business etc etc I don't care ... The efficiency makes profit, profit is a pie everyone gets a slice of....even me. Health care should be free as should education and the first round of drinks. And if they want to worship the devil good luck ..not one devil worshipper in a war ever raced forward yelling ..."for the devil and country " But well many sort gods help to kill. And folk think I am crazy cause I like to live like a hermit... Alex
What I found interesting ; when they showed Hillary voting , is that she said she might win . Trump thought it would be a landslide . ( he won by a landslide ) . It's almost like they knew . Just saying
It's almost - no, it's exactly like - one has the good manners to express doubt and the other is an uncontrolled egomaniac. Define landslide. The electoral count went to the Republicans. The actual vote count went to the Democrats. It's a screwy system.
Maybe , but I watching until 3am , each state has so many seats to win , thats what I clued into eventually ; otherwise I don't know what you mean .
They knew River "THEY", those who really rule the world, had already decided who would win and issued appropriate scripts to both Hillary and Donald but now that I have told you I will be eliminated but I thought you should know. Or it could be just different social styles. Alex
No, she didn't. Trump went low, and Clinton mentioned that fact. Trump drove part of the discussion because the media was constitutionally unable to stop him, the media drove part because it is corrupt, and Clinton was too compromised in various ways to confront him or the corruption in the media directly. Trump lost the popular vote, and the electoral vote win depended on such small victory margins in a few States that the statistical evidence of voting tabulation irregularities is enough to suggest that he might have had it stolen for him. You can't get less of a landslide than that and still win at all.
