Are angels natural or supernatural?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Jan Ardena, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    Neither do jellyfish or butterflies, but their non human bodies conform to nature.

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  3. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    They aren't any kind of life form. They are words in a book.
     
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  5. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Do angels sleep in a bed or on a perch?
    Do angels have feet like a bird to help landings, are they able to wear shoes?
    Can angels hide their wings if say they go to the shops?
    Do angels lose their feathers each year and replace them with new feathers.
    Are their features all white or do they have markings say to show their rank.
    How far can angels fly? Could an Angel fly to the Moon?
    Do angels marry and have children?
    Can angels be gay?
    Did the angel who took Joe Smith to the location of the gold bible fly in front of him, walk with him or did they go by horse and cart together.

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  7. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Has any forum member seen an Angel fly?
    Alex
     
  8. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    I've seen a horsefly!
     
  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Not quite....but I've heard and seen an Angel sing!

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    That Groovy's a lucky fella!

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  10. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Now you mention it I have not seen one this year...that is strange.
    Last year they were in over the top.
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  11. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    It took a long time for the penny to drop for me but I finally got it ...but don't beat yourself up any humour has to be good for this thread.
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  12. Billy Baxter Registered Senior Member

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    Angels are either spirits of good, just men made perfect, or resurrected men with immortal perfect bodies. Or they may be mortals sent on errands from the Lord (I'm not sure about the latter). They do not have wings. They have immense power and authority from God. Some familiar angels are Michael the archangel (Adam), Gabriel (Noah), Moroni and Nephi. All of us used to be angels living with God in the "Pre-existence." Satan was once an angel in authority before he rebelled against God and became the devil.
     
  13. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    I'm surprised spidergoat lasted this long

    Even more supprised I'm in the post.

    But my negotiations with Donald Trump to buy his jet when he upgrades to Air Force One are quiet hence I have a bit of spare time.

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  14. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    I did see a Irish jellyfish set.

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  15. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Remember where you started. You said angels are subject to natural laws. Are you back-tracking on that now, to say that angels fly using magic?
     
  16. wellwisher

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    Angels behave sort of like dark matter and dark energy. We can't see either in the lab to prove their real. However, we infer all of them from affect. Physics also has made provisions for theorized, yet unseen places, like alternate universes, multi-dimensions and even something from nothing. It is not clear whether these physics theories were spawned from classical thinking, or whether classical thinking has found a place in science, as science gets more and more advanced. Science can't just say angels, since this is taboo in the atheist religion, and may result in a witch hunt and witch burning. But science can set the stage and wait for the actors.
     
  17. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    I have always understood angels to be hypothesised beings, described in Jewish and Christian scripture, consisting only of spirit and thus not material creatures in any way. It seems obvious this is a supernatural concept.

    Supernatural means NOT natural, by definition.
     
  18. Kittamaru Giving up this insanity for Lent - back ~ 4/15 Staff Member

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    Then find me an angelic corpse, and we will have ourselves an autopsy.
    Or do you presuppose that they do not have physical bodies...?
     
  19. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    Actually I asked why they wouldn't be subjected to natural law.

    Do you know any creatures that use 'magic' to fly?

    If you can't get past existence, then say so, so we don't waste each others time.

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  20. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    So if angels do exist, they can't have physical bodies? Is that what you're proposing?

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  21. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Jan, give an example of something that you do consider to be supernatural. Or is no concept supernatural in your view?

    Angels are supernatural because there is no evidence for them, they aren't tangible, no one has seen them, there is no indirect evidence for them, they are not of this world, etc.
     
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    Here is a natural angel? . . . . appears as visible when the light angle is just right . . . ps/a real image - NOT Photoshopped! (see next post)
     
  23. karenmansker HSIRI Registered Senior Member

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    What is left when a pigeon hits a window and the window is too resistant to break! . . . . guess the image could be '"angel dust'? Perhaps someone will post this on the WWW as a 'real' angel!! (HAHA!)
     

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