Building a Better Identity (Ego)

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Bowser, Nov 30, 2018.

  1. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    just thoughts....
    Being honest to your self allows you to find out what being true to your self is. One can not come to know yourself if your head and your heart are full of self deceptions.
    In a religious context, being brutally honest with self is the same as being brutally honest with God. (judgement day is every day)
    In a self esteem, psychological context being brutally honest with self is needed to get past all the conditioning that makes you other than yourself. Thus being able to discover who you really are and not what your world has conditioned you to be.

    It takes courage to face your demons ( deceptions) and it takes sometimes brutal honesty to find out what those deceptions are.
    The inner "Jihad" is about eliminating the self deceptions that prevent you being unified with yourself (religion: God)
    dualism ( ego - disunity) - non-dualism ( unity )
     
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    excellent question
    is wealth attached to hope & dreams ?
    if i comprehend your metaphour correctly... this means you can buy what ever you wish which places you in the top 5% of the worlds population.
    ive met one or two multi millionaires who are work-a-holics and tend not to be concerned with buying things and spending money as much as they are concerned with their chosen profesion.
    such people tend not to suffer from greed which i find quite fascinating as they are always inside a capitalist(technicaly mixed market economy) environment and so greed is often just a glance away being heralded as a moral driver for success.
    i find that quite odd.
    yet it is normal to many.

    What Ego can not do is change the judgemental materialist behaviours of others that is normalised in most societys.
    be it how many cows you have or daughters you can sell or racing cars or the latest street fashion chinese made 5000% mark up slave wage product.

    you note friends, so this in turn is a reflection of the self.
    which tends to hedge morality.

    building a bubble inside a bubble as it were.

    does access to proper health care and a balanced diet and clean safe healthy living conditions make a person a better person ?
    most would agree it does, though there are some rare exceptions.

    is a person able to be better than those around them ?
    yes
    is a person who rejects the morality of those who surround them, able to be a moraly superior person ?
    care to touch lightly on that ?(its quite a big subject which is critical to your question hence my inferance to touch lightly to avoid me thread jacking and have the thread fall into a theological debate of secular morality Vs theological morality)
     
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  5. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not certain how a lot of financial wealth would change my person. I mean, how many homes can you live in at one time? How many cars can you drive at the one time? How much food can you eat at the one time? As for friends and morality, it depends on shared values, like Christians attending church.
     
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  7. mmatt9876 Registered Senior Member

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    If you chose to rebuild yourself as a wealthy person I believe that it would also be very wise to structure yourself with self control and prudence with money to ensure you do not spend all your wealth unwisely.
     
  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    christians need to create bigger and bigger churches with more and more people
    = greed
    but that greed is re-labeled as "ambition" and then written into morality as an idealism of normalcy.

    without the evolutionary trait of greed along side socialism humans probably would not have made it soo far.
     
  9. mmatt9876 Registered Senior Member

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    The desire to earn more money is a big motivator for people to pursue higher education and take more difficult jobs. If money is not the motivator, or reason, for doing a task and, in turn, supporting or helping out society, and its people, in the process then doing a good deed for society, and its people, sometimes is the alternate motivation, or reason, for helping out society, and its people.
     
  10. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    I woud choose even beter health than i have now... an my ego is fine so no changes needed.!!!
     
  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    overt materialism as a cultural norm is expressed through its vehicles of cultural practice.
    if the moral effrontery is in its own self analysis then ask it to ask its self.

    philosophical discussion points...
    note imperialism(colloquialism) as a concept of moral domination
    seeking to demand others to change their moral concepts to suit someone else because the someone else feels uncomfortable while discussing someone else's opinion of morality.

    like oxy is a big motivator
    or is it the pain that is the motivator ?
    or is it the desire for no pain that is the motivator ?

    i think there is a bit of a blurred line where needs are mixed into wants which are then aligned with moral ideology.
    then placing the moral ideology as the predominant moral rule ahead of the mix up of wants & needs.

    is that intentional of people do you think ?

    lust ambition greed desire ...
    all one in the same if they all require the same "vehicle" ? be it oxy or money or credit system points etc...

    if you the patience & will, please try entertaining the concept discussion of defining differences between "greed" & "ambition" as an inter personal social interactive Ego identity.
    imagining the moot to be "there is no difference between greed & ambition"
     
  12. mmatt9876 Registered Senior Member

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    I guess the reason behind wanting to earn more money could be coming from the desire to own a bigger house, which, in turn, could be coming from the desire to raise a large family, and so on, and so forth.
     
  13. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    yesterday
    a man was willing to (and did knowingly and in public)put other peoples lifes at risk and break laws rather than to admit he was at fault because he has a massive ego problem.
    he deliberately endangered several other peoples lives and then tried to supplant himself to be the person who has the grievance & claim legal and moral superiority.

    all because of his ego problem and his need to be a narcissist.

    it is very common and normalised in most societys and happens many times every day

    look at that police officer who shot that unarmed Australian women in the usa.

    shoot first and ask questions later justified reality...
    with the power of life or death & an unlimited public taxpayer expense account for legal fees.

    im glad the chief resigned
    whom ever is the training manager should probably resign and the psychologist who does the psyche evaluations should probably also resign(and whom ever is their manager).
    look at the other government officials who made public statements about guilt of jesse smollet.
    they undermined the legal process by preventing him from getting a fair trial and consequently set fire to hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of public tax money and police time.

    it is quite clearly a culture and a culture that is over due for change.

    if your a police officer and you hear a loud noise is it ok to start shooting the first person closest to you ?

    i think the usa government/political leadership has a real power and control problem.
    the purpose of the power is to preserve life. not to take it at will.
    the main problem is the supplanting of post event morality as a form of religious conformity for self absolution to assert a sense of moral superiority and justification.
    such a fake religion !
    all because they are too morally corrupt to put their own morals forward to be assessed and equalized to become secular moral law.
    they wish to remain the moral dictator walking around with power of life and death.
     
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  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    was a good reminder that regardless of who is right or wrong, peoples Egos can get carried away and they can do things they would otherwise say they would never do.

    it is like the statement/question
    when you ask people if they are a good driver, do any of them reply "no" ?
    transversely
    ask them if they are a good husband/wife and the answers are quite varied.

    how many stop to ask themselves and those around them
    "how flat & stable is my base?"
    the majority never ask such questions on the whole(only in a scenario where they are attempting to seek a personal gain through a personal relationship).
     

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