# Can you completely destory one of the three dimensions of breadth,lenght and depth?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by river, Jun 29, 2017.

1. ### James RJust this guy, you know?Staff Member

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Here you seem to contradict yourself in consecutive sentences.

In the first sentence you say "zero bananas" is "not a number of bananas". But In the second sentence you tell us that zero is a number after all.

If zero is a number, like 1 or 3 or 17, then "zero bananas" must be just like "one banana" or "seventeen bananas". It's a number of bananas.

Webster's - like most dictionaries - first and foremost records common usage, not mathematically rigorous definitions.

3. ### Write4UValued Senior Member

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Yes but not a number of bananas. I might choose not to answer at all, but show an empty basket, which would clearly shows the absence of bananas.

And as noted Webster does qualify the use of the word and neutrality for convenience.

I looked up the definition of zero in physics, and all I got was "zero point energy"
IMO, the use of the term zero point energy is such a use for convenience and has a qualifier.

I believe it describes a state of Potential which is still latent and not yet expressed in real measurable objects, which would have measurable values (numbers).

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5. ### riverValued Senior Member

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And this has to do with the OP ?

7. ### Write4UValued Senior Member

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Well then post something which you believe is relevant to the OP.

A tree has many branches. Discussing the fractality of a tree leaf is discussing the properties inherent in the mathematical growth pattern of a tree and by extension relevant to the OP question.

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8. ### riverValued Senior Member

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Sooo....?

You can't destroy any of the three fundamental dimensions without destroying the others .

If you destroy the dimension of depth, how are length and breadth conserved ? Neither are .

9. ### Write4UValued Senior Member

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The surface of a
Length and breadth form a 2D plane which can exist without depth. If you add depth then you have a 3 D volume. If you take away depth, you are back to a 2 D plane. We went trough this with the discussion on a triangle being a 2 D plane connected by three points . Adding a fourth connecting point, creates a 3 D tetrahedron. Take away the fourth connecting point and you still have your 2 D triangle plane.
i.e. A 2 D plane.
i.e. A 3 D volume if you add length to breadth and depth

Interestingly , the surface of a sphere is a 2 D plane, even though a sphere is a 3 D object with volume.

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10. ### riverValued Senior Member

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Your thinking is mathematical , not physical .

In reality a 2D plane can not exist , physically .