COVID-19 effectiveness

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  1. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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  5. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    My thoughts?

    I think he has it correct. I take it as a given he has data to back up his comments

    I suspect he probably know (or a hunch) about) it even before the data was available

    Also I suspect he said nothing about the COVID-19 vaccines not protecting overly well due to those listening who distrust the vaccine will hear just not protecting and remark "see the vaccine doesn't work"

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  7. Dicart Registered Senior Member

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    He is almost right.
    ARN vaccine against covid do not change the infection frequency 15 days after you have been vaccinated.
    After that, it diminish the severity of the symptoms.
    But after being vaccinated, the chance to be infected is much higher during 15 days (so you have to be carrefull (use some FFP2 mask per example) during 15 days because the probability to be infected is much higher after vaccination).
    This phenomenon has also been observed for other vaccines for other diseases.

    Also, ARN vaccines against covid do not have long term efficiency, unlike other vaccinces, here the "efficiency" (against severe symptoms) is around 4 or 6 months.

    Concerning non ARN vaccines (like China has developped), i dont know if they have the same flaw.
    It is said they are not so much efficient (60% against 80%), but perhaps they protect longer and have a real infection frequency efficiency, like the vaccines "usualy"do (they use a standard vaccine).
     
  8. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    We have known all this for about a year now. Why is this presented as news? Is this just a way for deliberately stupid people to mount yet another misdirected attack on Fauci or something?

    The vaccines have, from the start, never been very effective at preventing infection, but they are very, very good at reducing lessening the likelihood of severe disease and the duration of infection. This remains the case, even with the latest Omicron BA.4 and 5 variants. In the UK, lots of people are getting BA4 and 5 but few of them are getting anything more than a cold - and sometimes a bit of fever.
     
  9. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Don't you love "He is almost right."?

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  10. Dicart Registered Senior Member

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    Very funny.

    Looks like you never heard of the ADE phenomenon.
    If you understand a little when someone speak of biology, here is the abstract :

    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s41745-021-00268-8
     
  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i have covid
    strong positive test result yesterday
    0 symptoms

    i have had pfizer double shot
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Me too. I only knew because I get antibody tests when I donate blood. But then again I have both vaccination and booster, so no suprise that it was mild.
     
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  13. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i was expecting to have caught it before now but i have not been testing.
    household contacts tested after feeling symptoms so i tested.
    otherwise i would not have known
    i was due for a dentist appointment so its a bit of luck because i would not want to infect my dentist
     
  14. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Never caught it the 18 months strand in Bali. But then there is a small might because one had one test during that period

    Tested negative on evacuation day so was allowed on flight

    Went into hospital about 6 weeks ago. Staff all wear mask for their shift, patients no. Patients tested every day. I never returned a positive

    Booked flights to go back Bali, not politician wants to cancel all Bali flights due to Foot and Mouth disease in Bali

    Welcome to the most uncertain international travel period

    Do you think the UFOs are only sporadically land because they don't have custom clearance from home planet. Anal probes are their RAT test on us for whatever they are trying to avoid

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  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    was a debunker made up comment probabbly originating from homophobia
    • the object is to assign the fear & paranoia and discredit the reportee by assigning them homosexual status
    there is only a tiny fraction of abduction reports about being analy probed
    fyi

    the more interesting probing is ambiotic fluid through the stomach wall
    which was reported before the procedure had been developed in modern science
    • amniocentesis in abduction reports

    what meat does bali export ?
    bali is a tourist black money country
    shutting down tourism shuts down the countrys economy & politicians dont care about foot n mouth because they get paid and can buy what ever they like anyway.

    so if your asymtomatic like me you might have caught it once or twice already & not known about it.

    we dont have to re test
    just self isolate for 7 days then continue on with normal life.
    but im going to get some tests and test myself to see how long i test positive for.
    as soon as i find some company that can sell & deliver RAT's

    im being mindful that like other flu it might suddenly hit me after a few days so im taking things very easy
    im staying well hydrated eating mostly fruit & vegetables and keeping my vitamin C levels high
     
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  16. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Interesting. I would have thought along with amniocentesis aliens would have also run through a ultrasound

    Description of a ultrasound before human had invented them would be almost definitively proof of aliens

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  17. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    yes there are reports of people being able to see their internal organs on a screen
    real time MRI level full colour & going down to a cellular level

    however
    the one consistent thing is the amniocentesis
     
  18. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    OK thanks for the info

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