https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiomersal what you have not included is the compound was used more substantively in compound vaccines these compound vaccines were discontinued to remove any potential risk as a public alarm response and to provide a better quality product with a lower perceived "potential" risk these multi vaccines have been changed the the EU has gone further to rule out the compound on a best possible risk evaluation to eliminate public concern. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/pa...downloads/vacsafe-thimerosal-color-office.pdf the older vaccine combos of multi dose required higher levels of sudden Thimerosal & as a precaution these types of combination multi dose vaccines have been stripped back to fewer to give best practice and help eliminate parent concern around baby and infant vaccination which is fraught with miss information and terrible anti-vaxer alarmism targeting new parents with baby's to exploit ignorance & create panic & miss information https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/multiple-vaccines-immunity.html unfortunately the alarmist anti-vaxxer religious people and conspiracy theorists have continued their attack on new parents to create vaccine hesitancy combined with miss trust of science this leaves babys with high risks missing booster shots !!! currently 1st world health systems are struggling to try and get new parents to complete the basic vaccination process including BOOSTER SHOTS which is increasing terrible injury and death on small children and baby's USA https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/immunize.htm Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis (4+ doses DTP, DT, or DTaP): 80.7% Polio (3+ doses): 92.6% Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR) (1+ doses): 90.8% Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib) (primary series + booster dose): 79.6% Hepatitis B (Hep B) (3+ doses): 90.6% Chickenpox (Varicella) (1+ doses): 90.2% Pneumococcal conjugate vaccine (PCV) (4+ doses): 81.0% Combined 7-vaccine series: 68.3% Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! https://www.cureus.com/articles/199...rove-attitudes-towards-childhood-vaccinations
Somebody else brought it up and I addressed it. http://www.sciforums.com/threads/covid-from-a-china-lab.164194/page-2#post-3670629 Can't I address what other people bring up?
https://www.cureus.com/articles/199...rove-attitudes-towards-childhood-vaccinations Childhood Vaccinations According to a study conducted by the Blue Cross Blue Shield Association, early childhood vaccination rates have been steadily increasing. However, a wide variation in vaccination rates exists between states and local communities in the United States. The study examined children born from 2010 and 2013 and determined the vaccination rates three years after their birth year, which is CDC’s suggested completion date for the seven-vaccine series, which include DTaP (diphtheria, tetanus toxoids, and acellular pertussis), polio (poliovirus), MMR (measles-mumps-rubella), Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type b), HepB (hepatitis B), VAR (varicella), and PCV (pneumococcal conjugate) vaccines [5-6].They’ve found that among the four cohorts, 23% are under-vaccinated. Several factors contributed to under-vaccination in 2016, including missed well-child visits, refusal, inferred delays, and other unidentified reasons. The largest percentage of under-vaccinated children is due to missed well-child appointments, which is 62%. Inferred delays refer to delays in scheduling the seven-vaccine series, and they account for 4% of under-vaccinated children. Vaccination refusals make up 6%, which comparatively doesn’t seem like a substantial amount, but there has been approximately a 70% increase in vaccination refusal “for children born in 2013 as compared to children born in 2010.” Parents or guardians who refused vaccination, refused all of them, suggesting that one vaccine isn’t more likely to be refused than the other [5]. Additionally, the considerable jump in vaccination refusals emulates a deep-rooted problem that will result in life-threatening consequences. Anti-Vaccination Propaganda The anti-vaccination propaganda isn’t a new concept, as evidenced by Dr. Andrew Wakefield’s publication in 1998 that falsely linked autism to the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine [7]. But with the rise of social media, the anti-vaccine sentiment has proliferated. Although social media has played a pivotal role in how biomedical and healthcare companies communicate with their consumers and match the consumers’ “needs and interests with available products and services,” it has also provided a platform that allows consumers to spread misinformation. Social media has enabled consumers to “rapidly seek health information, share medical advice, AND directly manage health conditions,” all of which could be considerably beneficial but only with caution [8]. According to the National Assessment of Adult Literacy (NAAL), only “12 percent of U.S. adults have proficient health literacy” while approximately 35% have basic or below-basic health literacy skills. The limited literacy skills render them incapable of thoroughly understanding available health information to use appropriately, which further propagates misinformation [9]. The nineteenth century marks the beginning of the compulsory vaccine era. It began with the Dutch government in 1871 where they required that all schoolchildren receive vaccinations to prevent the propagation of smallpox. But in 1881, it came to a halt when the Association to Oppose Compulsory Vaccination was established. The association presumed that mandatory vaccinations violated individuals’ liberties and, in response, promoted religious exemptions. In 1879, the Anti-Vaccination Society of America was founded, and its leaders were worried that government intervention would threaten their practices and manufacturers feared that it would limit their trade. Albeit the compromised stance of the leaders of the Anti-Vaccination Society of America, many states repealed compulsory vaccinations. In 1889, the Royal Commission on Vaccination was established to retaliate the rise of the anti-vaccination movement, and in 1907, it passed laws to allow individuals to opt out as a compromise. With that, the anti-vaccination sentiment diminished progressively, more so when medical licensure laws became more structured and when the federal and state government gained more control over public health. The movement was originally against the compulsory nature of vaccinations “rather than vaccination” itself, but its current reemergence is due to concerns about vaccine safety. Unlike the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, the anti-vaccination movement gained deep-rooted traction with the existence of social media and negative connotations surrounding immunizations perpetuated exponentially [10]. Commitment to vaccinations follows the continuum model whereby the intermediates and extremes are represented. Vaccine hesitancy is the manifestation of the intermediates and includes behavioral strategies used to seek alternate vaccination schedules, such as selective refusal, delay of certain types of vaccines, or beginning vaccinations later in a child’s life [11].The lack of confidence in vaccine safety and efficacy along with the quality and convenience of vaccination services contribute to the likelihood an individual will get or have their children vaccinated [12]. Three common false immunological claims influence the public to be more reluctant to get vaccinations: antigenic overload, prominence of autoimmune disorders, and natural immunity. The antigenic overload claim alleges that children’s immune systems are incapable of handling the number of antigens given in immunizations. In Wisconsin, 64.9% of 236 parents that claimed non-medical exemptions stated that they are concerned too many immunizations could weaken their children’s immune system. Those who concur with the antigenic overload claim argue that too many vaccinations could trigger a “cytokine storm,” which, in turn, would result in adverse health events. Although the claim hasn’t been substantiated using scientific evidence, there is a rare occurrence that antigenic simulation caused by vaccines could result in an anaphylactic response. Additionally, there are four significant articles of evidence that antagonize this claim. First, the amount of antigens from micro-organisms that are exposed to children the moment they’re born exceeds the amount and variety of antigens given via vaccines. Second, “studies of vaccine efficacy and safety include” combinations of the different vaccines in the seven-vaccine series didn’t establish any evidence of symptoms and signs of antigenic overload. Third, vaccinated children haven’t demonstrated evidence of antigenic overload. Fourth, throughout the years, the amount of antigens in vaccines has drastically decreased with the implementation of a vaccine schedule and improvements in vaccinations. All four declarations augment the fact that antigenic overload shouldn’t be a concern for parents and that there is sufficient evidence to combat any statements indicating it should be a reason to refuse immunizations. The second claim that anti-vaccinationists have promoted is that vaccines can cause autoimmune diseases. The claim suggests that the vaccine components mimic a human protein so much so that when antibodies are produced, they bind to human analogs instead of the antigens they’re meant to attach to, resulting in an autoimmune response. To identify any possible associations between vaccines and autoimmune diseases, specifically type I diabetes mellitus, multiple sclerosis, and Guillain-Barre syndrome, the Institute of Medicine organized a panel of experts to review more than 12,000 published reports and failed to find any association. The third claim asserts that “immunity induced by ‘natural infection’ is safer than vaccine-induced immunity.” Although acquiring the infection could result in “superior immunity,” acquiring the infection could impose high risks of lethal or disabling complications. Additionally, booster shots, which are subsequent shots of the same vaccine, strengthen the immunological response to certain diseases without the risks of death or other complications. Further, immunocompromised or immunosenescent individuals are unable to retrieve live viral vaccines and depend on others that are capable to do so to protect them from a natural infection [13]. All claims made by those who argue against vaccinations have been countered via peer-reviewed studies, but its advancement debilitates the effect that vaccinations have done on public health thus far.
the short story is anti-vaxer propaganda is killing baby's & allow them to catch preventable diseases that cripple them for life lol i read medical reports, journals & clinical study's including data appraisal study's by medical professionals with doctorates and professorships and listen to scientists talk about things i read clinical trials and research trials on vaccines & drugs i will come back later and watch what you have posted out of curiosity [Two links to dubious videos removed by moderator.]
Check out the info in post #59 too. http://www.sciforums.com/threads/covid-from-a-china-lab.164194/page-3#post-3670979 That's good but keep in mind that the American media is famous for lying about science. http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-26#post-3475851
YOU began the whole thing, then complained elsewhere about your off topic posts getting removed! The sheer irony of that is beyond belief. THAT is exactly your main problem, you ignore copious amounts of things brought up. Strangely though, anything that enables you to repost from your wall of spam or copy and paste from endless duplicates - oh you reply to that.
Stop linking back to your own posts, people are more than capable of reading it the first time! You completely ignored my response to that as you do so very often. Again with your bullshit claim and any excuse to spam the idiotic wall of spam. Comprehensively taken apart by this blog*. Debunking The Apollo Moon Hoax: Whistleblowers, governments and lies. (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com) "Summary:- This section of the "wall of spam" highlights two points that massively contradict each other. We have the premise that scientists and governments lie, "demonstrated" with whistleblowers and articles written and spoken by numerous individuals very much alive. We then have the premise that nobody would speak out about Apollo because they would fear for their lives! BUNKUM!" * This is where he completely avoids that entire page because of some lie about his arse-kicker being a paid sophist, which he cannot prove - his "proof" is where his arse-kicker kicks his arse and he thinks his own opinion actually means something.
You brought it up, you dishonest troll. No one here lies more than you do. The old saying about glass houses comes to mind.
FatFreddy has been warned for promoting information about vaccines that is false. Due to accumulated warning points, FatFreddy will be taking another brief break from sciforums. Also, anti-vaxxer lies are not the topic of this thread.
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Or..... is China attempting to initiate an attack on the USA dollar to grab a large share of the reserve currency market? The Weimar Republic hyperinflation as well as the hyperinflation in Zimbabwe and Argentina taught us that two factors are needed to produce hyperinflation. 1. print lots and lots and lots of money quickly 2 greatly DECREASE productivity! Both factors have been happening all around the world over this past year! Yes... China could well have a lot to gain from what has been happening but there is a tiny segment of relatively wealthy people in all nations who actually like what has been happening to the world economy.
the indefensible position the perfect victim the children make the enquirer to be the abuser via the mother most people are brainwashed to accept what the mother says as being scientific fact when the reality is she is giving her personal emotional feelings as a 100% emotional position of events. there is no clinical material in the news item it is 100% 1 person making a 10 minute story 0 proof 0 scientific data 0 clinical reports 0 blood test reports i could venture into some discussion on things but that would be somewhat off topic you need to post medical data not just some fantasy story dictated by a person on camera crying as they talk with mood music added your posting off topic i suggest you start a thread on the subject if your interested in it. PM me when you do and i will come in and engage. the highest scientific most probable statistical cause is the mother catching the father having sex with the nanny and then the nanny being fired and poisoning the children or the mother poisoning the children what she describes is extreme traumatic shock this would be achieved by serious abuse of the children physical and or a combination of poisoning and abuse or a genetic abnormality(quite common in multi-births) no doctors reports to validate her story no pediatric reports no blood tests nothing just a big story with lots of crying and theatrics just like millions of americans who try to scam people every day in the usa look at all the fake charity's and medical fake injury's suing everyone late detection of a birth defect of pre existing genetic mutation abnormality she gets no money if she can blame a medical procedure she becomes rich
someone needs to mail you a go-pro type of camera to mount on your helmet & you can post little blogs of cruising through paradise on your scooter make it look like your flying add some chill music then played on a wall of a pub or cafe somewhere your idea sounds almost believable to an American or an industrialist or wall st type person but it lacks a few technical details which make the difference between it being a real desire and just a idea for anti-china conspiracy fiction fyi i do not support chinas excessive abuse of authority over peoples political freedoms equally i do not support the usa using its private business owners over taking governments with extremist liberal policy that undermines regulation and social controls like universal health care & market regulation. what would china do with all the usa cash if it stole it ? where would they put it ? what would it be worth ? they could build a new great wall of china made out of USA currency physical dollars and it would be a carbon sink and probably cheaper than trying to use it for anything it would be worthless what you cant see is the long game even though you think your playing it what happens when the chinese currency becomes globally dominant ? china suddenly gets painted as the evil master mind that the usa has been and china will become the new legitimized target for peoples complaints against big brother government and authority why would they do that ? it just makes them a bigger target for nothing in return as other currency's lose value and they lose their trade exchange values for their own production & GDP. why is china not the world #1 vaccine producer ? that is outright crack pot stuff who told you that ? any depression or sudden take over by a military dictator can create hyper inflation many European countrys have years of history to show how they have had inflation caused by exterior currency fluctuations and foreign investment playing with their currency for profit add on tourism failing and a MASSIVE lack of centrist regulation and social welfare systems and lack of market control & lack of regulation of private businesses & lack or regulation of corporates... and wham ! printing money has no relationship to hyper inflation just the same as my question for the thread subject why is china not the world #1 vaccine producer ? answer this 1 question
considering where coronavirus comes from it is likely to be in many jungle like habitats in Asia & Africa for the last few hundred years waiting for the perfect storm to help it jump human to human if you have a 1 million sided dice and roll it 1 trillion times you have a better chance of winning the pandemic than if you only get to roll it 500,000 times additionally virus transmission from & between humans & animals longest established civilization versus ? looking at Asian archipelagos they probably suffer a much greater almost total extermination of gene ranges and villages over the century's versus inland civilizations where animals have been bred for hundreds if not thousands of years that is why genetic diversity is so critically important for humans and all other species now look at genetic diversity inside those claiming vaccinations turned their children into autistic patients suddenly
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tourism is their #1 cash income which drives their entire economy(middle class & consumer spending) im sure they will seek to add more free vaccines for friends stuck there Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! it makes financial local community & international sense (we look after our friends & our friends look after us) Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
1 theory wife is an alcoholic husband is a cheater sexual predator miscreant paying the nanny for sex or paying the nanny to be quiet about his affairs nanny realizes the babys are not really looking like the children of the husband discovers the wife has been having an affair and the babys are not the husbands nanny trys to make money by telling the husband husband pays nanny to do something to the babys and mother to force a divorce so she will divorce or go insane & he will pay her & she can run off with lots of cash and he will be free to live his single life and babys not his can refuse alimony nany poisons mother and babys but mother/wife is alcoholic and miss dinner that day same day they going for medical appointment only babys get poisoned & dont finish full load of poison because they dont have dinner after vaccine at home easy typical wife needs to maintain being the victim because she knows sh cheated and babys not hers husband just needs to agree to everything she says and he is untouchable or nanny has falling out with wife mother wife mother also informs nanny that nanny will be gone when children start school because wife mother will stop work nanny thinks if babys are sick bad then wife mother keep me in job for ever good money easy job or husband trys to poison mother & babys mother skips meal because she is alcoholic babys poisoned nanny changes food not knowing total poison is limited easy no vaccine cause science data anywhere why triplets ? because fertility treatment because he is useless for breeding and she is a bit useless new news headline fertility clinics cause autism new news headline bad male sperm donor causes autism bad sperm & egg storage causes autism pre existing condition who pays ? no scientific evidence of vaccine cause no link to a lab producing SAR'S CoV-2 based on your provided information
The conspiracy lives on. "It is absolutely accurate the intelligence community does not know exactly where, when or how Covid-19 virus was transmitted initially" ... The lab theory. Rubio's question was in the same vein as a statement by then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in the final days of the Trump administration that there was evidence researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology had been sick in the fall of 2019 with Covid-like symptoms and that the lab in Wuhan, where coronavirus had been studied in bats, had a history of military research. https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/15/politics/covid-origin/index.html Biden said of Xi Jinping that he doesn't have a democratic bone in his body. Xi Jinping, is also causing shit in the South China Sea and China is not all forthcoming about the virus. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Dr. Fauci from both the Biden and Trump administrations: https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2...avirus-developed-naturally-sot-vpx-newday.cnn The only country that I think China is intimidated by is the US, but this could make a reaction Global so to say and China is not one for making friends right now? If the idea hasn't yet gone away I don't think it will much ever as long as the same regime is in power.
which super power was not working with corona virus for decades ? which Chinese research lab is not a government lab or contracting to the Chinese government ? tin-foil-hat right-wing meth junkys who want to jump on the democratic Joe love buss so they can point like billy bunter & scream "i told you so" do not suddenly validate anything possibly, or possibly not, said by Joe where is the evidence ? what they will say is "there is no evidence which is why it proves it is true" what they are looking for is an excuse that allows them to take the blame off the republican leaders in the USA for failing soo terribly and willfully and knowingly in acting when the virus got discovered. instead they started playing trade war profit greed games with state budgets and politicizing the WHO, trying to turn the WHO & UN into a socialist boogyman to line their own pockets with fear reaction donations & power to knee jerk away from them. cost hundreds of thousands of USA life's & trillions of dollars not the sort of people you would bring home to marry your daughter unless you had already dug the hole