where have i said life must have arisen by supernatural means? thank you james. at least you are man enough to admit it. because that is what people do when they don't have all the pieces. it's also why you must continually tell new posters that there is a difference between evolution and abiogenesis. i am not avoiding anything. i made a simple statement and everybodys brains just oozed out of their heads. i never said life didn't come from non life. i said "science has no proof that life came from non life naturally" the meaning behind that statement is that every scenario and every experiment performed to test abiogenesis has failed. period. frankly i find it amazing that fraggle rocker would get as stupid as he did in his last post over a simple observation. fraggle, do not put any more words in my mouth.