Helps to be specific, yes. Sorry. 2.8 million years is the current record for the oldest hominid fossil discovery (this month): http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/05/w...ry-fills-barren-evolutionary-period.html?_r=0 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...an-ancestor-discovered-earliest-relative.html 8 million years is the estimate of how long ago our ancestral line diverged from lower primates and apes eventually leading to the birthing of the man who became Bishop James Ussher whose work on the chronology of the New Testament is the stuff of YEC legend. Elevating him and his inspired calculation to more than a G-d, for YECs, or even all of science in the years since then. This calculation is more revered and adored than the subject of the first commandment, and this demonstrates there is no limit to the depths of human gullibility. Even before 8 million years ago, there were individuals who could not read, write, or produce much of a repertoire of vocalizations or think or model nature as deeply as ourselves, but were nonetheless much less gullible than your average YEC. All of this, an excuse not to be associated with certain of these ancestors who were as much one of G-d's creatures as they are.