Did Haiti form a pact with the Devil?

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  1. TheVisitor The Journey is the Reward Registered Senior Member

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    "Veteran" here means he used to be a Christian etc, ...but he's switched sides now and has an obvious grudge to settle.
    It says he" alleges" the pact didn't happen based on something he found on a site about urban legends.
    Just because "the ceremony has become a part of Haiti's national identity", that doesn't make it a good thing.
    They have made slaves of one another instead. How is that better?
    Look at the hundreds of thousands of "Restavecs" in Port-a-Prince alone.
    There is a religious system that has hijacked Christianity, not representing the actual God of the Bible. They are two different things.
    The morals of the rich French slave-owners of the time, were not the only thing corrupted by this religious empire.
    It backed the south and slavery in America, tried to take over by splitting up the states and plotted the assassination of Lincoln.
    Read "Fifty years in the church of Rome". (http://books.google.com/books?id=Ah...resnum=4&ved=0CBgQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=&f=false)
    It's how Haiti got their freedom that's in question. Are all wars bad? Yes.
    Does that mean we are bad or have a pact with the devil? That is a good question.
    Because the next logical step would be the question; "if this was from God, who's next"? America maybe?
    That's something the media doesn't want you thinking about. Scared people don't spend well.
     
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  3. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Why exactly is this thread still up? Here are some facts:

    Haiti did not make a fucking pact with the Devil.

    Here are the facts for the "pro" argument:

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    So, enough already. This is as idiotic as blaming the tsunami in Indonesia on their godlessness or ours.
     
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  5. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Source?
    Links?
    Can you prove it?

    Gullible fool!
    That was the Easter Bunny.
     
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  7. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Listen, you Welsh wannabe. I don't have any solid proof, like an uncited web page, but I do know that I specifically paid my own sorcerors to counteract the charm. Not that it was really necessary. Do you know how much spiritual energy you'd have to summon to earthquake an entire island? You'd need to be at least 52nd level. QED.
     
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    God Cites 'Moving In Mysterious Ways' As Motive In Killing Of 3,000 Papua New Guineans

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  9. nirakar ( i ^ i ) Registered Senior Member

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    Pat Robertson Knows what he is talking about. He was there. He Was the Devil's lawyer at the time.
     
  10. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Damnit. Well, there it is, then.
     
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  11. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    1) it doesn't make it a pact with the devil. They were non-Christians in a struggle with a people acting evilly and using their god to justify their slaveholding and oppression. Of course these religious slaves asked their gods to fight for them against what was clearly evil. To say they made a pact with the devil is confused and evil. 2) whatever the problems you have with the link are ones you need to accept since it was yours. He makes a good point.

    This is irrelevent. Now you are talking about another issue and, by the way, it comes off as a justification for slavery by whites.

    Sure, and whatever spiritual force that was behind this is what they attacked with their ritual, not some good God who cares about life.

    Oh, but they do. They spend money on what they are told will help them escape from what they fear, from dandruff to patheticness to whatever they have been scared into believing some company can fix for them.
     
  12. TheVisitor The Journey is the Reward Registered Senior Member

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    You have made a good case for not being judgemental.
    Thank you.
     
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  13. nirakar ( i ^ i ) Registered Senior Member

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    Did anybody mention that Boukman's Haitian Voodoo was a religion that had nothing to do with Devil Worship?
     
  14. Forceman May the force be with you Registered Senior Member

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    Witchcraft in General

    From a Biblical point of view, all witchcraft is fro the devil, whether the partakers of the craft worship the Devil/Satan/Belial/Asmodee or not.
     
  15. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know, did they?


    I find it tragic that this earthquake is being abused by child traffickers, and illegal adoptions, etc.
     
  16. nirakar ( i ^ i ) Registered Senior Member

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    I suppose if a Catholic prayed to the Virgin Mary protestants could consider that witchcraft. It sounds like Haitian Voodoo was not much further into being witchcraft than praying to saints is.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Vodou
     
  17. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I think it is crazy to say that Catholics are not Christian. But my protestant roots have problems with the idea of praying to anyone but God and all of the idols/statues and holy relics. It runs contrary to Christianity as I have known it.
     
  18. 786 Searching for Truth Valued Senior Member

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    For good reason, there is ample evidence to support the Protestant position of anti-idols/images as the OT is full of such things...

    Peace be unto you

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  19. TheVisitor The Journey is the Reward Registered Senior Member

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    Americans who went down to help the children of Haiti were thrown in jail on false charges.
    In an interview with a voodoo priest in Haiti on ABC News today, he said;
    “I have seen those missionaries coming here supposedly sent by Jesus to save us from what, I don’t know…
    We don’t need that kind of savior,” voodoo priest leader Max Beauvoir told ABC News.

    http://abcnews.go.com/WN/haiti-eart...d-kidnapping-children-proper/story?id=9736257

    This voodoo priest doesn't care about the welfare of the Haitian people.
    He just wants to stay in power.The spotlight is on them now.
    The whole world is watching. Like anything that flourishes in darkness, they can not survive in the light.
    The days of their casting spells and preying on children eating mud pies are numbered.
     
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