...DID we go to the moon?

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  1. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    The USA is talking about going back (or for you trying for the first time) to the moon. My question is, do you think that it is possible now to o to the moon or do you think the USA is starting another hoax?
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    From Snopes:
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    Buzz Aldrin admitted in an exchange captured on video that he never went to the moon.

    Rating: False

    In July 2018, a video hit social media that purportedly captured Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin, the second man in history to set foot on the lunar surface, admitting to a young child that he never actually went to the moon:

    Many of the video-based rumors that we investigate require us to keep a keen eye out for deceptive edits or altered audio. In this case, however, all we had to do to debunk this one was listen to the question asked by the young child and the answer given by Buzz Aldrin.

    The child didn’t ask Buzz Aldrin if he ever went to the moon. Rather, she posted the question “Why has nobody been to the moon in such a long time?” to the astronaut. When Aldrin said in reply that “we didn’t go there” and “that’s the way it happened,” he was referring to the fact that the U.S. has sent no missions back to the moon since the final Apollo spaceflight took place in December 1972, not asserting that he had never been to the moon in the first place.

    We’ve transcribed this portion of the video below (emphasis ours):

    Child: Why has nobody been to the moon in such a long time?

    Aldrin: That’s not an 8-year-old’s question. That’s my question. I want to know. But I think I know. Because we didn’t go there. That’s the way it happened. And if it didn’t happen it’s nice to know why it didn’t happen so in the future if we want to keep doing something we need to know why something stopped in the past if we want to keep it going.
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    Astronaut Buzz Aldrin admitted the Apollo 11 moon landing was staged on a movie set?

    Claim: Astronaut Buzz Aldrin admitted the Apollo 11 moon landing was staged on a movie set.

    Rating: False

    Is it true that Buzz Aldrin admitted the Apollo 11 moon landing was fake? Sounds unlikely…

    Origins: In November 2014, the Huzlers web site published an article recycling the old conspiracy theory that the moon landings were fake events staged on movie sets, claiming Apollo 11 astronaut Buzz Aldrin had recently admitted to such:

    One of the astronauts on the Apollo 11 mission, Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin, confirmed that the Apollo 11 missions were “fake” and that the videos of the mission are simply showing a setup that was created to simulate how the moon and space would look. “Apollo 11 was not real, none of it was” Buzz Aldrin said in a video he recorded confessing to the Apollo 11 hoax, “I am ashamed to say this but I cannot hide it anymore, it was a setup, like the ones they use in Hollywood films, back in the 60’s, the U.S. was competing with the Soviet Union to achieve space flight supremacy, which was known as the “space race”. We were afraid the Soviets would beat us to the moon so we decided to fake the moon landings of Apollo 11 to say we were greater than the Soviets” concluded Buzz.

    Shortly thereafter links and excerpts referencing this article were being circulated via social media, with many of those who encountered the item mistaking it for a genuine news report. However, that article was just a spoof from Huzlers, a web site that offers users the ability to “Create your own news prank and trick your friends by sharing it” and has a history of publishing fabricated news stories (such as one about pop star Justin Bieber‘s admitting to being bisexual and one about the 2014 Super Bowl being rigged). The Huzlers site also carries a disclaimer on its pages noting that “Huzlers.com is a combination of real shocking news and satire news to keep its visitors in a state of disbelief.”
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  5. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    You're probably right. When a hoax-believing video or article has questionable stuff, it usually wasn't put together by real hoax-believers. It was probably put together by a public-relations firm hired by the government to work on damage-control. Stuff such as this discredits the hoax-believers.

    Here's another one. Start watching this at the 5:05 time mark.

    Documental Secret Space Vol. 1 subtitulado al español Parte 5.mp4



    This video deals with some of the hoax evidence that hoax-believers use but it also says there are mile-long space creatures swimming around in space.


    It begins here.

    Secret Space Vol. 1 OVNI david icke Part 1 ESPAÑOL UFO.mp4



    Videos such as these were probably created by PR firms as part of their strategy to discredit the hoax-believer movement.


    They use this strategy to try to discredit a lot of movements. Here's one on 9/11.

    provocateurs,shills and disinfo agents

    (7:20 time mark)
     
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  7. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    FatFreddy could you answer this question? I am really curious.

    My question is, do you think that it is possible now to go to the moon or do you think the USA is starting another hoax?
     
  8. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    Well, I think the reason they faked the missions was probably space radiation.
    http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=1147.0

    According to alternative sources once you get about three hundred and fifty miles high, you need two meters of lead shielding to keep from getting cooked. If this turns out to be true, walking around on the moon in a spacesuit is impossible so they can't carry out the kind of mission they're talking about.

    I think they're going to talk about going back for a while and they'll later say the program is cancelled for lack of funding or something.
     
  9. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    I think things should be moved to the tell a joke thread

    Here we have a conspiracy hoax made to discredit conspiracy hoxers

    but it also says there are mile-long space creatures swimming around in space

    The above belongs in the hall of fame as some thing hoxers do not believe in

    Where is MR for his expertise?

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  10. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    You're missing the point. They want people who aren't familiar with the hoax proof to equate people who believe in the hoax with people who believe there are mile-long space creatures swimming around in space and end up thinking that hoax-believers are flakes.

    Their latest strategy has been to make people associate hoax-believers with people who think the earth is flat. Real hoax-believers don't believe such rubbish.


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    Here's one of those videos.
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/P2NthQS5FCgB/
     
  11. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    And if they don't? We will see capsules with two meters of lead shielding right?

    Further do you think if they DON'T go but fake it
    • they will have sorted out the stars in the background and
    • turn off the fans / air-conditioning to stop the flag waving

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  12. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    That is like saying

    Car thiefs who steal a VW give us car thiefs who steal a RR a bad name

    Personally I am looking forward to the Mars hoax

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    PS Sorry to disappoint you Terry Pratchett proved the world is flat when he showed the illustration on his book with the 4 Elephants and Turtle underneath

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  13. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks for the reply. This will be fun, a real-time mission for the conspiracy crowd to debunk as fake.
     
  14. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly

    But standby for this fake to be gold standard

    The pole and the flag will be cast in one piece, from aluminium

    This flag ain't gonna wave

    LED stars will required in every photo taken on the moon (in the studio)

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    PS Love it when FF says

    "According to alternative sources once you get about three hundred and fifty miles high, you need two meters of lead shielding to keep from getting cooked."

    Seems he does not understand the alternative sources are the hoxers

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  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt
    Implications for space travel
     
  16. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    So they received approximately 1 REM of radiation. That is quite a lot of radiation to receive in 1 week. That is about 3 times the radiation I got in 4 years on a nuclear submarine. But that is still only 20% of the legal limit for radiation workers.
     
  17. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    That was lame even for you, FF.
     
  18. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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  19. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    MSM is a nutbar flag, just so you know.
     
  20. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Your math is off. Your "info" is third- or fourth-hand at best:
    First-hand: actual video of men walking on the moon.
    Second-hand: some bozo hallucinates the flag waving
    Third-hand: you see some dim-wit website and say, "Duuuh... it IS moving!"​
     
  21. David C The print that nails this troofer Registered Senior Member

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    FF88 posts on his basketball forum bolthole:

    "I'm taking a chance here again."

    Post above linked.

    "Let's see if the post gets deleted or edited or if I get banned."

    I think he is playing some sort of weird game, challenging the moderators to ban him so he can do his Gollum victory dance over at spursforum, where he is widely regarded as crazy.
     
  22. David C The print that nails this troofer Registered Senior Member

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    That uses specific and linked citations to validate its content. You can shout and complain all you like, but as an information source it is perfectly adequate.

    No it is the best place.

    You have no education on any matter relating to space travel, your stand on any matter is as relevant as Mickey Mouse's.
     
  23. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    ?
    ok... ah huh ?! so when i or anyone questions something ...
    it instantly becomes invalid because it doesn't suit your intended purpose to make people believe in what you feel like at the time ?

    ok i get ya

    if it seems like its probably not very convincing and has holes you can poke in it, then it is the devils work and should be ignored as fakery so you don't stop believing in pahaby jehsus

    sounds perfectly logical !

    that's science right ! ... ?

    i knew there was some reason why i didnt trust science
    science you dirty trickster !
     
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