Huh.. is that an existing word I didn't know about ? lol
yes, i think it's a sexual inuendo. ha, ha, ha, ha...
Huh.. is that an existing word I didn't know about ? lol
lol
By the way, did you post 155 ?
i did read it, but i'm going to have to tackle that a little later. i have some work to do. bleh...![]()
you want people to walk, talk, eat, and shit just like you do, or rather the way you tell them to, or you call them arrogent and self-centered.
the contradiction is you darlin; not a once have i asked for anything from anyone except to be fair, be honest and perhaps teach the good to the next generationsdo you NOT realize how contradictory that is?
what nifty language? are you talking about the word "entanglement"? It is a term used in science to share a property of light.let me be very clear with you bishadi...
i KNOW that my source of enlightenment is god. and i KNOW that the perfection of the human race and thus eternal life will come only from a restored communion with god. NOT from following your rules, and speaking your nifty little language.
i experience and i seek to understand what i am experiencing; so i learn and have since a kidnow then, the only thing i want to know from you bishadi is this...
what is your source of enlightenment?
i saw a war between the black(s) (red (bloods and crips) blue).... after that i had an experience in the sense of submission, that i would learn over the course of my life and then share, so that no child ever has to grow up not comprehending what life is, every again.more specificly, what is the catalytic interaction that allowed you to be privy to this enlightenment? yes, i'm calling you out, and i would appreciate a specific and honest answer please.
because i was pointing out in the typical HAMMER fashion; what your ill regard is and why it is wrong.and let me tell you one other thing...
you are my enemy.
and you will have your five minutes of fame somewhere down the road but let me assure you, that after that we will annihilate you.
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Hey, if it's the truth.. I want to know it. Plain and simple.
I just don't understand why being open to the possibility of god existing isn't enough for him to contact me.
If he wants me to throw my life away just to see whether or not something I consider to be very unlikely (understatement) is actually true, then he is insane. And I think very very few people that are still in their right mind would ever do that.
Looks like a stalemate to me.
Smoking.. etc.![]()
What ? Why.. ? That aren't healthy thoughts for a kid to have.
Didn't you enjoy the beauty of life (both now and as a kid) ? And I don't mean human life..
You do realize that you're not unique in what you're about to say, do you ?
Which is, in my experience, what most religious people say when asked how they came to believe (especially the ones that didn't get 'home schooled').
>> Feeling a void, trying to fill it, doesn't work, get depressed, almost throw your life away, you find god, god turns out to fill the gap <<
No offense, but this is what's wrong with the humanity. If there is anything wrong with the world it is humanity.
I take it that you're talking about life in the sense of your relationships with other people; the human world. There is more than that, believe me.
Doesn't God tell you to be content with what you have ? If not, why not ?
Like what ? Greater ?
So you don't like humanity. Join the club![]()
How ? Have you learned to ignore it ?
Isn't god going to do something about it ?
I don't see a six week old fetus as a child.
Ok, my apologies.
So being open to the possibility is enough. I'm still left wondering why he hasn't contacted me..no, you don't throw your life away to see, and you don't throw it away at all really. to be open to the possibility, and the potential consequences. when i say that you give up your life, i mean that there's an inherent submission that takes place when you realize what and/or who you're dealing with. there is also the fact that our flesh conflicts with this communion. the ego, our emotions, our intellect...none of these things foster communion, and in a lot of ways, can inhibit it. those things are yours, and you can use them in conjunction, but they are often times in conflict with communion, and with a submission to something greater than you, even if that which is greater than you is acting in your best interest.
Hmm I don't know... lolbut ultimately, you find your REAL self in god. yourself minus all of the lies that you're told by society and parents and even those you tell yourself. it's very liberating, and non-conformist. it's freedom.
What ? That's just not true.. not where I live.yes they are and they're common. that's why kids act out. for crap's sake, you can't even enroll a kid in school nowadays unless they're on some kind of drug.
Humanity IS the wrong. I wonder what excuse your god has for making us.and yes i have and do enjoy the beauty of life. that is why i've always been so disappointed in the things that are wrong with humanity. see?
I don't think I get what you're saying here. Rephrase ?hm...isn't that what atheists are always bitching about? lack of scientific method in regards to an interaction with god? interesting.
I don't think you understood what I meant. I called you out on being human-centric.i absolutely concur with you. something inherent actually. i'm so glad we agree.![]()
I don't understand how anyone can be at peace with something they are discontent with (hate even).no he doesn't. he gives me peace amidst my discontent and empowers me. and this is why. because there is power in our desire and in our thoughts. they are prayers. and if everyone is content with what we have now, things will never change. someone has to take a stand and demand the change. it is this interaction that causes our will to be in line with god's and vice versa.
None of that is ever going to happen.perfection...eternal life. no sickness, suffering, or death.
ERROR !i actually love humanity. i just hate what's wrong with it.
Sounds like escapism to me..no, i just feel really empowered and protected, and i feel love.
What if he hasn't contacted you and you still want to contribute ?yes. those of us who want it, will make it happen with god's help.
I suppose so..well, i suppose if a woman ever aborts your baby, that will be a very convenient perspective for you to have.
I replied to that:Lory_7 said:perfection...eternal life. no sickness, suffering, or death.
I should have added that perfection is subjective. It doesn't really exist.Enmos said:None of that is ever going to happen.
And thank god for that
No, they're all liars.
Who, the dinosaurs ? lol
No. I would imagine she hates you because you are a higher than thou, sanctimonious and judgemental arsehole who seeks to lay abuse and judge others for things he knows or understands little about in the personal lives of others.because i was pointing out in the typical HAMMER fashion; what your ill regard is and why it is wrong.
you hate me for being just that; a hammer!
So being open to the possibility is enough. I'm still left wondering why he hasn't contacted me..
Or perhaps it's because my flesh ? I really didn't get that part..
God made us like this, right.. ?![]()
Hmm I don't know... lol
I'm having far less trouble seeing it the other way around; finding the real god in yourself.
What ? That's just not true.. not where I live.
Humanity IS the wrong. I wonder what excuse your god has for making us.
I don't think I get what you're saying here. Rephrase ?
I don't think you understood what I meant. I called you out on being human-centric.
If people actually cared about Life (notice the capital L) instead of being so self- and human-centered there wouldn't be any problems.
I don't understand how anyone can be at peace with something they are discontent with (hate even).
Besides, god causes all this to happen. Are you saying that he's discontented about it as well ? I mean, you are implying that he wants us to make change.
None of that is ever going to happen.
And thank god for that![]()
ERROR !
Humanity is what it is. What you think is wrong with humanity is inherent to humanity.
What you love is how you want humanity to be. A pipe dream.
Sounds like escapism to me..
What if he hasn't contacted you and you still want to contribute ?
I suppose so..
But, I'm not going to any babies.
Edit:
A small correction.
I replied to that:
I should have added that perfection is subjective. It doesn't really exist.
You're just confirming that he made us the way we are. The way he made us determines the outcome of knowing good from evil, and he allowed us to know that. He knew how things would turn out.well, you know how the story goes. he didn't make us this way, but we chose to know good and evil, so he allowed us to know, and now we do. it's great isn't it? lol.
Yes, you would. You'd be none the wiser.no, it really is in a twisted way. i wouldn't feel right about being an ignorant puppet.
You think you understand why things are the way they are..i like understanding why things are the way things are, and having the realization that things don't have to be this way forever.
I don't understand how he can expect us to 'hang tight' for god knows how long without having a clear idea of why we're even doing it.and yeah, our flesh is the barrier, but he can break through. if you want god to enmos, god will. i swear i know that. just hang tight. the time will be right sometime.
I think god wouldn't like me too much thoughi have great expectations for you enmos. i like your perception, and you seem very sincere. one day, the way you see things, and why you see things the way you do, will make sense, and you'll feel a lot better.![]()
I like to think I'm doing alright in that respect, for the most part.i think you see things exactly as they are, and that's good.
And some of those people have been diagnosed as being mentally ill, having psychotic delusions, hallucinations, etc.well, if those who claim to know god, and have experienced him individually, all attest to a similar process and experience with him, and attest to the same type of development or understanding, or results, then isn't that what the scientific method is all about?
We do too well.yeah so, the question is...what the hell is wrong with everybody?
So is god discontented with humans or any aspects of humanity ?if you understand a reason for even the bad things, that understanding, even if you abhor the bad things, can bring you peace. and yeah, when our will aligns with god's will, it changes things for us. thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.
What is the point of trying to correct something that is fundamentally flawed ? Why try to repair the irreparable ?so you complain about the ills of humanity, but you don't want a correction? why not?
I already know the 'solution'.it's not a pipe dream. if you can see why humanity is the way it is, ie fucked up, then you can see the possibility of a solution. if you deny that there is anything wrong in the first place, you'll never see a solution.
Amidst chaos, hurt and suffering you turn to god and feel "really empowered and protected" and you feel love.and that opinion sounds arbitrary to me.
You can't expect me to belief that just because you say so.we talked about in another thread how god moves through all of us, whether we're aware of it or not.
Seriously ? That's one thing that's wrong with humanity, they 'fuck like rabbits'. The human population went through an immense explosion of growth the last two hundred years or so. It's not sustainable and, in my opinion, the sheer size of the human population is clearly cause of all our problems today.why not?
Then you are using a very different definition of 'perfection' than I am using.perfection is not subjective. it's like math. it's according to law which is not subjective.
i believe i believe, now what?![]()
no they're not jpappl.
they're notYou believe in dinosaurs. You believe in evolution.
If your serious then it's time to examine your religious text for what it is. Which is not the word of god.
Another way, believe in god if you want, believe god created the dinosaurs and uses evolution as the process for making changes to all of it's creations.
But stop believing in your religion because you can't believe in dinosaurs and evolution and your religious text. They are at odds with each other.
How is that not at odds with evolution and the discovery of dinosaurs.
although the question should be; why are they at odds?
but i'll help you a bit.
the quran mentions no thousands of years or millions or nothing.
also dinosaurs were not mentioned either.
no way Jose are there any odds.