Does Chaos Theory prove a Mathematically Ordered Universe

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  1. exchemist

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    Yes. Energy is a property of a physical system. The physical system may involve matter or fields or both.
     
    exchemist, Aug 24, 2020
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  3. Write4U

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    Mass, Density, Matter?
     
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  5. Write4U

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    That's not even wrong. Size, Mass, Density, Matter? Physical stuff?
    What are the dimensions of a field?
    What is the mass of a field?
    What is the density of a field?
    What is the matter in a field?

    Better is, "the system may involve non-physical properties", no?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-dimensional_space
     
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  7. Michael 345

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    What about

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  8. Michael 345

    Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Again what about

    No worse

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    I weakened

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  9. Write4U

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    Matter ?
     
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  10. Michael 345

    Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    What about it?

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  11. Write4U

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    Note that I am not arguing against the term "physics". You are arguing against the use of the term "mathematics".
     
    Write4U, Aug 24, 2020
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  13. Michael 345

    Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not sure what any of your post between 142 and 149 mean but (light bulb moment) it might be because I have someone on Iggy

    Another reason why I should not have returned

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  14. Write4U

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    Question: If everything is physical what happened to the question of "irreducible complexity"?

    Does physics stipulate that "irreducible complexity" is true? I cannot wrap my head around that contradiction.

    What is the smallest thing in the universe?
    The short answer? Quarks. We think.
    https://insidetheperimeter.ca/pi-kids-asking-smallest-thing/#
    https://quantumtocosmos.ca/#/landing
     
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  15. Write4U

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    Great Chart!

    What if we changed the Heading to;

    .... MATHEMATICS: .....
    TYPES OF ENERGETIC VALUES

    The list would be exactly the same, no?
     
    Write4U, Aug 24, 2020
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  16. Write4U

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    Does any of this answer the OP question?
     
    Write4U, Aug 24, 2020
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  17. Michael 345

    Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    No - the diagrams on the list would be incorrectly labled

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    Michael 345, Aug 24, 2020
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  18. river

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    The Point is Write4U , No Matter how Small you go , Something Always Exists .
     
    river, Aug 26, 2020
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  19. Write4U

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    No one denies that. But what exists does not necessarily have to be "matter"....

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    Religious people see an immaterial Intelligent Designer God as "existing", no? Be consistent.
     
    Write4U, Aug 26, 2020
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  20. Write4U

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    But they all could be correctly differently labeled, no?
     
    Write4U, Aug 26, 2020
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  21. river

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    Good

    Second statement ;

    Life Energy

    What is it that I'm not being consistent about ?
     
    river, Aug 26, 2020
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  22. Write4U

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    That "immaterial" objects can have existence. God is one such objects, no?
     
    Write4U, Aug 26, 2020
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    What " immaterial objects , can have existence " exactly ? What objects are you referring to ?
     
    river, Aug 26, 2020
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