Does truth have many versions?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by wegs, Jan 1, 2020.

  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    lol
    flipping the narrative to apply your own anti-exclusivity statement to try and normalise your position to sell it to the readers

    lol Troll !
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Got any ranch dressing to go with that word salad?
     
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exception_that_proves_the_rule

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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exception_that_proves_the_rule
     
  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    yes i would
    not only would i offer advice
    i would un-addict them

    keeping in mind the vast majority of people use drugs for dealing with emotional issues
    alcohol, sugar, Adrenalin...

    the main focus should not be the illegality and negative concept of the drug
    the main focus should be to deliver the addicts self control back to them.
    failing that then psychological re-structuring to undermine the psycho-active positive feed back of the drug(this is extremely risky & highly liable to result in serious suicidal idiation)

    the vast majority of drug addicts do not want to be drug addicts

    the except that proves the rule
    does not validate a solution to incarcerating all drug uses.

    the ideological metaphors of self indulgent wanna-be political leaders and religious conservatist anti drug charitys, do not solve addiction problems
    equally their ideology does not solve them either.
    unfortunately politicians have popularized concepts that simply do not work and make the situation much worse.

    do you want to be the exception
    or do you want to be the drug addict ?
    or the politician ?
    ... mad hatters tea party of deliberate miss alignment of the cause and effect of the service process to deliver a result for those effected(the addict)
    vilifying the addict to proclaim others to be the victims and thus usurping the rights of the addict to then victimize the addict is as close to evil as you can get without putting on a pair of horns

    most people don't care
    like i don't know
    they care enough to want to throw a stone at the problem.
    but not enough to learn about fixing it.

    they want it fixed for their own personal emotional satisfaction
    not the addict
    thus a massive miss alignment, more so when you have the politicians who pander to that idea to sell their own popularity on being tough on something.
    so they pick on those whom are weakest
    the addicts
    like a human sacrifice

    WeGs
    do you have a friend addicted whom you wish to help ?
    PM me any time
    keeping in mind,[turning it into a metaphor] some dont want help so you cant just give them free cups of teat and a biscuit to solve the problem by announcing them to now be rich with tea n biscuits.

    * do not take my tone personally, i am a little tired & have a headache
     
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  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Good choice, going with the quote salad instead of the word salad. The word salad was a bit dry.

    (BTW you cannot un-addict anyone. Only they can do that.)
     
  10. river

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    The truth that does not have many versions is in the Universe its self .

    The Universe has Life and energy<>matter .
     
  11. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    In a US Court one must sometimes swear to tell "The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth".

    Legally, then (and they pay very careful attention to words), some of the ways of presenting versions of "the truth" are significantly misleading enough to take the trouble of excluding. Clearly lawyers regard misleading without lying - communicating versions of "the truth" that misrepresent its relevance to some current discussion, say - as something people can do.

    Which is not to say that anyone can tell the whole truth about anything, under oath or not - just to note that people are aware of the problem, and value relevance as a property of some versions of the truth.

    This relevance requires good faith in the receiver, as well as the communicator, btw. There are people who cannot discover or be provided certain relevant versions of some truths - they can only accommodate or comprehend other versions. Creating such people - inculcating bad faith in a population of the receivers of some communications - is a well-paid profession in the US.
     
  12. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    What defines "objective truth"? If everyone agrees, then it is true? I'm not certain you can remove subjective perspective from the truth.
     
  13. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Yea, that’s kind of the original question of the thread.
     
  14. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Judge to defense attorney "Did your client commit the crime for which he has been charged?". Defense attorney "I think so but I'm not sure".

    Is that the kind of truth that you, as a client, would want?

    By the way, whatever happened to Rainbowsingularity?
     
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  15. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    truth
    absolute truth
    objective truth
    truth as you see it
    ?
    in all likelihood truth is much like a crystal with a thousand faces and, if you are lucky, you might be able to see clearly through one of them?
     
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  16. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I don’t know but I miss him

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  17. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I can try to be a little crazier in my posts if that would help?
     
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  18. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Such team spirit!
     
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  19. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    from rainbow land
    n/w corner of fayette iowa hard onto a bend in the volga river

    our local soil if named a fayette soil first described near fayette iowa
    it is a lively clay ritch loess soil prone to frost heaving
    so
    one might think of Rainbowsingularity as well grounded
    or.........................................
     
  20. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    I myself have my share of biases....
    I think that we all do....
    and I plead guilty of being biased toward near death experience accounts that contain a Life Review with Jesus......
    but.....
    perhaps I am limiting my Creator and perhaps even the ones that do not have a Life Review with Jesus.....
    may also be True and valid but......
    they just contain truths that my poor little brain cannot comprehend at this time????????
     
  21. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    My go to answer involves 3 people and may already have been posted in this thread

    Two people stand facing each other. A third person runs between them

    Each of the two people who faced the other are asked "Which way did the third person run?"

    One says "Left to Right"

    Other says "Right to Left"

    Both are correct showing TRUTH is a product of PERCEPTION

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